Dixie Hicks show ignorance...

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Kanth
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If people here decide to burn their CD's, it's because they are still for sale in the U.S. and those people will have to buy them first (stupidly supporting them financially in order to make a symbolic statement but whatever)

Maybe the were burning the ones they already had  

Kinda tarded to buy one to burn it. Maybe the companies that
sell the CDs and the radio stations were burning thiers.

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by lord dolf vader
you bush supporters cannot fathom the hatred the other 95% of the world has for him. i can understand you as weak minded followers. if i think of it like that.

He has a 60% approval rating on his stand on Iraq.
And what the rest of the world thinks is irrelevant to me.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm guessing you're bored.

I gotta put together a training session for Outlook and I'll find just about any excuse to avoid getting back to it.

[Tumor]

Originally posted by weazel
.... As far back as I can remember, I heard people say they were ashamed of President Clinton......

God Bless America,
Natalie

Natalie
 
  I still am ashamed, hell I'm embarrased at Clinton... but look you stupid squeak, it's not about what you said, it's about where you said it.  STFU already.

[CavemanJ]

Originally posted by straffo
Freedom of speak ?

While I realize and sympathize that you are french, are you really that stupid??

Was she arrested for her comment? NO
Some kind of government censure? NO

She exercised her freedom of speech to express an opinion, perfectly legal.

Then a whole lot of other Americans excerised thier freedom of speech to let her know what they thought of her opinion.

[Rasker]

CNN vote running 2-1 against the Dixie Chicks

Created: Sun Mar 16 17:20:31 EST 2003    
Are fans unfairly punishing the Dixie Chicks for Natalie Maines' comments about President Bush?  
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No     63%  69835 votes  
Who are the Dixie Chicks?     6%  6590 votes  
Total:  111,228 votes  
 
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[straffo]

X2Lee && CavemanJ I agree that the people oposing the view of the chicks can do what they want but my lecture of the event is different and more general.

Why should an artist be banned of every radio just because of a different opinion ?

If another opinion as no way to voice it's the instant the freedom of speach dissapear, you agree ?

[GRUNHERZ]

Because the stations listeners cxalled in and asked them to stop playing the songs... Some stations agreed and others did not. Wow the wonder of a free society, frightening isnt...

The govt didnt ban it, people just got pissed and voiced their opinion about demonstrating against her comments.

I do understand how this confuses you strafoo as you livin a country whose president is telling whole nations to shut up and not even voice their opionios at all.

[texace]

I dunno...as far as I can tell boycotting their CDs over what she said might have been too much...but to each his own.

Yeah, what she said and where she said it didn't bode well for her. Freedom of speech protected her in that sense. But boycotting CDs and burning flags are two different things.

The way I see (and it's skewed...I'm young...so sue me) is that buring CDs is a way of showing you are against a particualr artist or producer or something. They've pissed you off to the point where you and your friends are willing to no longer give them money. Fair enough, right? But flag burning demonstrates you do not like the way the goverment of that country has done something you dislike. In a sense, flag burning is only a way for popsicle-assed people to prove they're bigger than that country by burning the flag. Yeah, to us the flag is a symbol...and we see it as a thing to respect. But in reality...what in essence are the "terrorists" doing besides burning a flag and feeling big about themselves? Are we phisically or emotionally hurt by it? Sure, we may feel angry...but we as citizens can't do anything but watch.

Oh well...nothing to do now but wait and see.

(Forgive me...I'm young...does that mean I can have a reprieve from the flames? )

[Martlet]

Originally posted by straffo
X2Lee && CavemanJ I agree that the people oposing the view of the chicks can do what they want but my lecture of the event is different and more general.

Why should an artist be banned of every radio just because of a different opinion ?

If another opinion as no way to voice it's the instant the freedom of speach dissapear, you agree ?

The artist wasn't banned.  The radio stations, after complaints from their listener base, chose not to play their music.  I don't know how they run things in France, but this is free enterprise.

Case in point:

Dixie Chicks offend me, so I decide to boycott their music.

I call station A and B and tell them I'm boycotting Dixie Chicks.

Station B makes the decision to stop playing their music, due to listener calls.

Station A continues to play it.

I'm listening to station B.

If a business wants to make money, they follow their consumer.  That's why boycotting works.


An artist has every right to voice their opinion, just like I do.  They have to realize, that no matter what their opinion is, they are going to offend a portion of their listener base.  If they choose to voice that opinion, they may lose a portion of their fans.

It's up to them to decide what is more important.  Voicing their opinion and running the risk of reducing their earnings, voicing their opinion in a manner that is less offensive (many artists voice their opinions with less backlash, it was mostly the words she chose and the forum she said it in), or keep it to herself.

There is no wrong answer.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by texace
I dunno...as far as I can tell boycotting their CDs over what she said might have been too much...but to each his own.

Yeah, what she said and where she said it didn't bode well for her. Freedom of speech protected her in that sense. But boycotting CDs and burning flags are two different things.

The way I see (and it's skewed...I'm young...so sue me) is that buring CDs is a way of showing you are against a particualr artist or producer or something. They've pissed you off to the point where you and your friends are willing to no longer give them money. Fair enough, right? But flag burning demonstrates you do not like the way the goverment of that country has done something you dislike. In a sense, flag burning is only a way for popsicle-assed people to prove they're bigger than that country by burning the flag. Yeah, to us the flag is a symbol...and we see it as a thing to respect. But in reality...what in essence are the "terrorists" doing besides burning a flag and feeling big about themselves? Are we phisically or emotionally hurt by it? Sure, we may feel angry...but we as citizens can't do anything but watch.

Oh well...nothing to do now but wait and see.

(Forgive me...I'm young...does that mean I can have a reprieve from the flames? )

To me, flag burning is hipocritical.  Here's why.

Protesting your government is fine.  It's your right as an American.

The flag is a symbol of our country.  It isn't a symbol of republicans, democrats, green party, or the judicial system.  As an american burning the flag, you are showing your hatred for it, and all that it stands for.  Including yourself.  And you are using the freedoms that the flag provides you to do it.

If you hate the country, then move.  If you hate the government, then protest it.  Or better yet, do something to change it.  Run for office.

Burning the flag is disrespecting yourself, me, and my ancestors that worked to make this country what it is.  I will, and have, take care of any flag burning that take place in front of me.

[N1kPaz]

Send all your dixie chic CD's to France...that will show them for not backing their allies.

[straffo]

So you find completly normal to have some people phone to your radio and dictate what you have to listen ?


It's weird


And how can you assume that the people phoning are anything else than the more vocal ?


@GRUN : our democraty work fine ,thanks.

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I do understand how this confuses you strafoo as you livin a country whose president is telling whole nations to shut up and not even voice their opionios at all.

Pot to kettle, pot to kettle: you're black, over.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Don't often see libs destroying records or burning books because they disagree with the author.

Cons often miss that point.

I would think the PC crowd, worried about Huckleberry Finn's use of the "N" word, and other such literary issues {those issues that tend to hurt peoples feelings} would tend to be toward the left side of the spectrum...