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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #135 on: April 05, 2003, 08:13:12 PM »
A valid opinion? You are far too full of yourself.

The opinion stands. If this country behaves as if we can do what we want, where we want, when we want with complete disregard to world opinion you can bet your smug bellybutton that the enemies of this nation will only increase.
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« Reply #136 on: April 05, 2003, 08:15:20 PM »
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A valid opinion? You are far too full of yourself.


The only thing your opinion is good for is a laugh.

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« Reply #137 on: April 05, 2003, 08:46:30 PM »
Blitz: You're ranting.
And to avoid confusion, I am not an American, and not particularly fond of this war.
Of course you can find paralells with this and WW2. Arabs have their TV too you said, well, the Germans had Goebbels too. They had their stuff sorted out and were quite convinced about it. Their "information" service also made sure they were up to date with the facts around untill the end of the war, RIGHT???????

Secondly, about your fear about the US stirring up the Mouslims so they pose a threat to other nations, well, I never heard so much (yellow) BS for a long time. Do you really expect the whole world to submit to "possibly aggressive muslims" because somebody dared to offend them??
Want a WW2 paralell? Well, the "unarmed" Germany broke out of its bonds and suddenly had to be accepted as a military power. To ensure "peace", there was a strong movement, i.e. in England fighting to some success to the one sided disarmament of the UK!
When finally the Beast was unleashed with full warfare going on in France, UK troops and RAF squadrons in France had at times quite some problems co-operating with the French because of their fear of enemy counter-action. A famous incident is when French cars and trucks blocked a runway to prevent RAF aircraft to take off,- it could be be anticipated that the Germans would get angry and launch an attack for revenge!

The British took a bold crusade on their hands when declaring war on the German war machine. It may not have been too sensible (for their own possibility of benefit) and it evolved into the largest conflict of human history.
But it was definately inevitable, and I must say that I am glad that they threw the card and got it started rather than waiting until it was their turn to get thrashed and bullied.
The UK and US forces are facing something of the kind today. It won't get any better by ducking your head into the sand.

There is also a big and unmentioned misconception going on, and even while being used as an excuse for a passive situation vs. any country (whatever) who's majority of population is muslims.
There are many kinds of muslims, and most of them are just ordinary and nice people with no special quarrel against me or you.
We must not fall into the trap of equalling muslims with terrorists and Tyrans, - that is just stupid and ignorant generalizing. That is also Saddam's card in the game. He wants to paint things black and white and ignite a holy war between muslims and the rest.
Alternitively, he and his likes are ready to bully anybody submissive enough through the means of terror, i.e. bomb threats, the Jihad question, other muslim uprising, etc, etc.
There has indeed not been much worse around for muslims than self-appointed warlords of the holy-whatever like Saddam trying to catapult an entire culture and religion into war with the rest of the world, while barely being able to feed themselves.
The victims of this whole mess are then perhaps the ordinary muslims, - encircled by people like Saddam and Bin Laden blowing the war-horn, various simpletons regarding them as a constant threat to all humaniry, and then people like you Blitz, looking carefully at them with the label "HANDLE WITH CARE, DO NOT TOUCH".
Bahhhhhhhhhhhh
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« Reply #138 on: April 06, 2003, 04:26:03 AM »
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What's that like, having an opinion that doesn't mean a damned thing


In the rest of the world (maybe not on this BBS)seems this is called with words like FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY

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........., we are a very benevolent power by any relative standard. I believe that America is very responsible with the power we have.



......that was my thinking, but if this BBS is the mirror of the middle american man, I'll have to change my mind:(


P.S. (thats for latin "post scriptum".....  explained only for Martlet):D

I have to correct myself; I refer to the whole BBS, and this is wrong, its only the arrogance and intolerance of few people.
I apologize to the rest of the BBS
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« Reply #139 on: April 06, 2003, 04:40:53 AM »
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P.S. (thats for latin "post scriptum".....  explained only for Martlet):D

 


If you had half the education I had, you'd be twice as smart as you are now.

Go make me a pizza.

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« Reply #140 on: April 06, 2003, 04:55:27 AM »
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If you had half the education I had, you'd be twice as smart as you are now.



I added this only because in a thread by Naso you said to ignore what was the meaning:)

No intention to offend you, btw , only an act of courtesy


To pair that you can explain me : "Go make me a pizza" , is to be taken as on offence???:confused:

Regarding my education and smartness I dont feel I want to compare them to yours:rolleyes:
BTW, did we ever dine together, that you pretend to know me so well ??? I dont remember
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« Reply #141 on: April 06, 2003, 05:18:37 AM »
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When finally the Beast was unleashed with full warfare going on in France, UK troops and RAF squadrons in France had at times quite some problems co-operating with the French because of their fear of enemy counter-action. A famous incident is when French cars and trucks blocked a runway to prevent RAF aircraft to take off,- it could be be anticipated that the Germans would get angry and launch an attack for revenge!


I find this part strange ....
Were you speaking of some event were the british  were about to bomb zones under geman control but full of french civilian ?

I've some link if you want.

No that I disagree with the British tacticallly ,but it's far easy to bomb civilian when they are not from your own country.

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« Reply #142 on: April 06, 2003, 05:46:19 AM »
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Bounder, we are a very benevolent power by any relative standard. I believe that  America is very responsible with the power we have.


Nuke, I believe you believe that.

And the rest of the world is hoping that's true because theres naff all they can do about it; faced as they are with an expansionist economy and the worlds largest and best equipped military machine.

Quis custodiet custodiens again.

The rest of the world has to have faith that the US will always do the right thing, but convincing them may be very difficult in light of recent events.

The US has reached the position of global dominance by design, not by accident. Why is that? I would venture that it stems, not from some ill-defined desire to make the world a better place, but from a desire to protect and expand the interests of all (or at least) most Americans.

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« Reply #143 on: April 06, 2003, 06:03:41 AM »
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Nuke, I believe you believe that.

And the rest of the world is hoping that's true because theres naff all they can do about it; faced as they are with an expansionist economy and the worlds largest and best equipped military machine.

Quis custodiet custodiens again.

The rest of the world has to have faith that the US will always do the right thing, but convincing them may be very difficult in light of recent events.

The US has reached the position of global dominance by design, not by accident. Why is that? I would venture that it stems, not from some ill-defined desire to make the world a better place, but from a desire to protect and expand the interests of all (or at least) most Americans.


Every country obviously looks out for it's own interests first and foremost. America has remarkable power. We are not evil and, in fact, extremely restrained in my opinion.

Not many other countries would be so restrained given the power we have, in my opinion. We are not perfect  but I am glad we are here.
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« Reply #144 on: April 06, 2003, 06:04:50 AM »
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The opinion stands. If this country behaves as if we can do what we want, where we want, when we want with complete disregard to world opinion you can bet your smug bellybutton that the enemies of this nation will only increase.


Wars have been started for lesser things than the arrogance of a nation.

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« Reply #145 on: April 06, 2003, 02:04:36 PM »
I am smug.  Let them declare war, these countries that would do so over our arrogance.  Crushing a couple of them would cause the other countries that run their mouths to stfu.  with any luck, it will be France.. though we all know they lack the courage to lead in anything except, perhaps, debasement.
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« Reply #146 on: April 06, 2003, 06:02:57 PM »
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Germany IS threatened by the moslems Bush & Co steer up with their  insane war.


Suddenly Germany is threatened by the same people that America is no way threatened by, interesting .




So, if terrorists attack Germany now it's americas fault ? Not the criminals ?

And if Iraqi civilians are dying from sanctions it's americas fault ? Not the criminal .

And if the police crackdown on criminals in my area, stirring up criminal circles and my house is vandalized, it is the police's fault, got it .

Thanks for enlightening me .


Oh btw, I'm curious, why should we apologize to Vietnam ? Because we attempted to save their freedom ? Or because we failed ?

Should we also apologize to south korea ?

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« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2003, 09:22:57 PM »
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Suddenly Germany is threatened by the same people that America is no way threatened by, interesting .




So, if terrorists attack Germany now it's americas fault ? Not the criminals ?

And if Iraqi civilians are dying from sanctions it's americas fault ? Not the criminal .

And if the police crackdown on criminals in my area, stirring up criminal circles and my house is vandalized, it is the police's fault, got it .

Thanks for enlightening me .


Oh btw, I'm curious, why should we apologize to Vietnam ? Because we attempted to save their freedom ? Or because we failed ?

Should we also apologize to south korea ?


Odd, he has suddenly disappeared from this thread.