Author Topic: Is it ok to make fun of peoples death here or not? (Read 1724 times)

Frogm4n · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2003, 10:36:16 AM »

oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar. oh and im so scared of physical threats. oooo scary!

miko2d · « **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2003, 10:38:31 AM »

Mini D: Isn't this something we should let the courts decide? I mean... its just not right for us to pass judgement without all the facts.

Most people posess morals and can make moral decisions without courts telling them what to feel.

Of course for a hard-core socialist like you it is forgiveable to think that any question like "is it OK to..." reads "should our all-encompassing government outlaw..." but many of us still do not think like that and involving the courts is the last thing that comes to our minds.

Making fun of a death of any human is immoral.

(One can make a case of singular commonly accepted villains like Mussolini or Hitler, but their names are linked to so much tragedy that making any fun of them means capitalising on the suffering sof their victims.

Surely the joke "Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini are flying on the plane..." is much funnier that "Tom, Bob and Harry are flying on the plane..." becasue the first trio has a few million victims to their names.)

miko

miko2d · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2003, 10:44:01 AM »

Frogm4n: oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar.

Millions of people voted that he contributed a lot to society through satisfying their needs - by voluntarily paying considerable sums of hard earned money to enjoy his performances.

Granted, he did not do what you think he should have been doing with his life to advance your goals in your enlightened view of our communist future. But we should probably start not with men like him but with jailing/exterminating his audience who do not know what is good for them and society and keep spending their income on frivilous "non-contributing" pursuits. Right?

miko

Mini D · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2003, 10:46:15 AM »

Didn't need that reply miko. That was simply sarcasm directed at the creator of this thread.

MiniD

Frogm4n · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2003, 10:48:24 AM »

sarcasim isnt allowed in the oclub minid my bad

Furious · « **Reply #20 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:07:14 AM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
Frogm4n: oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar.

Millions of people voted that he contributed a lot to society through satisfying their needs - by voluntarily paying considerable sums of hard earned money to enjoy his performances.

Granted, he did not do what you think he should have been doing with his life to advance your goals in your enlightened view of our communist future. But we should probably start not with men like him but with jailing/exterminating his audience who do not know what is good for them and society and keep spending their income on frivilous "non-contributing" pursuits. Right?

miko

Miko-

You are just arguing to argue.

Animal · « **Reply #21 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:16:32 AM »

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Originally posted by miko2d

...Of course for a hard-core socialist like you...

miko

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Originally posted by miko2d

...advance your goals in your enlightened view of our communist future...

miko

He's on a roll today!!!

Funny thing is that if I were to think anyone in this board is a fascist, it would be miko.
But I still love his political accusations. It reminds me of kids jumping on each others **** because they disagree on who is the best Power Ranger.

And I love all the retarded "I'm gonna tell" because someone doesnt respect a person who drove around in circles.

Can never get enough of the BBS. Even with the older demographics, its just as mature as a Counterstrike clan message board.

Maverick · « **Reply #22 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:19:13 AM »

Miko is just concerned for "the greater good".

Frogm4n · « **Reply #23 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:25:06 AM »

dude the pink ranger was the best.
animal, the fyad forums have nothing on this place.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:34:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
people that cant get over a death and joke about it will never get over it. anyways, everytime i see a #3 plastered all over someones car like the guy was a saint i have to laugh. HE DROVE A CAR IN A CIRCLE. plenty of people die everyday that contribute more to society then that loser ever did and i dont hear you whineing.

So people who don't make a great contribution to society don't count for much? Its OK to joke about their deaths then?

What's your great contribution to society Frogm4m?

eskimo

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #25 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:43:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar. oh and im so scared of physical threats. oooo scary!

Dale Earnhardt Sr. contributed more to society than your ignorant worthless prettythang EVER will in your lifetime or the next ten lifetimes.

He spent hundreds of thousands (likely well into the millions) of dollars on humanitarian aid, he just never bragged about it like a dumbprettythangocrat. He gave money to at least a dozen incredibly worthy charities. The Foundation for the Carolinas, Speedway Children's Charities, Make a Wish Foundation, and many more. All of which were also listed in his will for ongoing contributions so long as his estate and DEI continue to exist, in perpetuity if it lasts that long. Not to mention hundreds of behind the scenes person to person gifts of money, food, agricultural equipment and supplies, and a list to large to go into here. He intentionally kept his contributions a secret because he did it for all the right reasons, as opposed to the liberal "donations for personal glory" attitude.

NASCAR drivers and motorsports competitors in general are noted for their willingness to donate time, money, and other assets to thousands of good causes.

You know, everytime you open your mouth, you display a greater level of ignorance. You know absolutely nothing of which you speak. A good thought for you to live by :it is better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. You'll get no threats of anything from me, moron, you do more damage to yourself with your mouth and your ignorance than anyone else could EVER hope to do.

rc51 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:56:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Dale Earnhardt Sr. contributed more to society than your ignorant worthless prettythang EVER will in your lifetime or the next ten lifetimes.

He spent hundreds of thousands (likely well into the millions) of dollars on humanitarian aid, he just never bragged about it like a dumbprettythangocrat. He gave money to at least a dozen incredibly worthy charities. The Foundation for the Carolinas, Speedway Children's Charities, Make a Wish Foundation, and many more. All of which were also listed in his will for ongoing contributions so long as his estate and DEI continue to exist, in perpetuity if it lasts that long. Not to mention hundreds of behind the scenes person to person gifts of money, food, agricultural equipment and supplies, and a list to large to go into here. He intentionally kept his contributions a secret because he did it for all the right reasons, as opposed to the liberal "donations for personal glory" attitude.

NASCAR drivers and motorsports competitors in general are noted for their willingness to donate time, money, and other assets to thousands of good causes.

You know, everytime you open your mouth, you display a greater level of ignorance. You know absolutely nothing of which you speak. A good thought for you to live by :it is better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. You'll get no threats of anything from me, moron, you do more damage to yourself with your mouth and your ignorance than anyone else could EVER hope to do.

Very well said Virgil.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #27 on:** April 23, 2003, 12:13:05 PM »

agreed.

the thing with 'heroes' dieing.. it affects the fans in a way that soldiers (other than loved ones), children (same as before), innocent civillians, etc dieing doesn't.

it's because 'heroes', whether they be musicians, atheletes, politicians, etc.. affect us more when they die because we will no longer 'enjoy' the things they bring us..
creativity, new music, new games.. whatever it is that put them 'in our lives' in the first place.
yeah it's sad and tragic when anyone dies.. but when the likes of Dale Earnhardt passes away it affects us more in our daily lives.. hence the 'grieving'..

I grieved a few times for people I'd never actually known:
Hendrix
John Lennon
S.R.V.
Dale Earnhardt
(among others)

not because I think they deserved any more respect or rememberance than the next guy, but because it affected my life in a negative way when they died...

Charon · « **Reply #28 on:** April 23, 2003, 01:34:19 PM »

Frog, you'da been safer making fun of Jesus than the Intimidator, though that was a bit lacking in taste.

I can think of about 100, recent Americans who are far higher on the dead hero list than good ol Dale. They likely didn't make enough money to contribute the excess to charity (isn't that kinda the easiest way to "contribute" to society, especially if you're a multi-millionaire?), probably a few of those poor inner city and country boys were even dumbprettythangocrats. They just wore the uniform and did their jobs like they were asked, and didn't come home. No contest for me.

Charon

miko2d · « **Reply #29 on:** April 23, 2003, 01:55:48 PM »

Animal: Funny thing is that if I were to think anyone in this board is a fascist, it would be miko.

I would gladly hear where my free-market minimum government intervention views coincide with any of the fascist views.

I have good reasons to claim that any person who insists that there are some considerations for the "public good" and "fairness" beyong those freely expressed by the said public by spending their money is repeating the communist/marxist dogma - whether knowingly or not.
Of course soldiers and some few other occupations are excluded from such mercantile calculation of "worth" but those are not engaged in free market activities.

Frogman's statement that a guy who drove a car in a circle to the satisfaction of the expressed wishes of the paying public is somehow less "deserving" than his ideal of what a person should do is pure marxism. Cool avatar, though.

Furious: You are just arguing to argue.

Damn, all that time I thought I was performing a surgery...

Anyway, millions of people find what Dale was doing worthy of their time and money. Frogm4n states that what he did was just worthless driving of a car in circles. Is there really an argument who is mistaken here?

Mini D: Didn't need that reply miko. That was simply sarcasm directed at the creator of this thread.

In this case I civilly appologise. It did seem to me like you've misinterpreted his statement as a call for government/judicial intervention. No sarcasm smiley in evidence... Sorry.

eskimo2: So people who don't make a great contribution to society don't count for much?

Better question to ask would be who is entitled to judge the contribution to the society than the customers demanding/purchasing that "contribution" and why would it ever matter beyong "Look at me, I am more virtuous that Dale Earnhardt"?