Author Topic: .357 Sig (Read 962 times)

funkedup · « **on:** April 27, 2003, 01:56:38 AM »

OK pistol nuts give me your opinion of this caliber. I have the hots for one of those plastic Sigs.

Steve · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2003, 02:33:54 AM »

357 has nice ballistics, a nice round.

I prefer .45... but not saying it's better. Kimber makes some truly excellent .45's.. have a couple.

squelch_19 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2003, 04:04:15 AM »

Get the .45 and forget about it

funkedup · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2003, 04:26:09 AM »

Guys I mean the .357 Sig round not the .357 magnum.

Creamo · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2003, 04:33:44 AM »

You'll shoot your eye out kid.

rpm · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2003, 05:38:58 AM »

Get a Man's gun, .45 acp. Yeah they're big, and the rounds are expensive, BUT what you hit, hits the ground.

CavemanJ · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2003, 08:24:36 AM »

.357Sig is like .38Super

A playtoy.

If ya really want a Sig look for ones chambered for .40S&W or .45ACP

lazs2 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2003, 08:36:50 AM »

.357 sig has good balistics. The slug is a little light... Unlike a revolver the sig round is limited in bullet shape and ballistics.

The sig round is 'necked down'... this is great for feeding but terrible to reload.. ammo is expensive. most necked down pistol rounds have jamming problems.. the chamber has to be very clean. To be fair.. the sig I shot didn't jam once. recoil was light.. about like the .45 but the sound was very sharp.

The sig I shot wasn't particularly accurate in my hands or the owners.

In short... I would rather have a titanium conventional .357 revolver. I have grown fond of the .40 and .45 in autos... both are nice little rounds.
lazs

Animal · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2003, 08:42:28 AM »

People here get hard-ons for the .45 ACP

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2003, 08:59:08 AM »

If you feel that the only use you will ever have for a handgun is in your work as a special forces member or big city cop then you have a right to get a woody over the .45... it will knock em down the way it's supossed to. Nothing else works as well.

Magnum revolvers do a better job but aren't as effiecient and are much more difficult to learn.

If you use firearms for a variety of things then you can't beat a good revolver in .357 or .44 mag.
lazs

-ammo- · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2003, 09:06:21 AM »

My uncle who was at Okiniwa couldn't say enough good abou the 45 ACP. He stated that under most circumstances, the projectile wouldn't pass through a human, which is a good thing in combat. All of the energy from the round is absorbed in the flesh of the target and its going to knock them down. That is real stopping power. He also shared an illistration which I hesitate to repeat here.

The 357 SIG, I don't have any experience with it, but from what I have read it is a souped up 9mm Luger, and only slightly moreso. The Sig Sauer handguns are known for their superb reliablility and functionality. If it was me, buy a Sig and have fun! Whatever cal you buy, you are probably not going be disappointed during your range time.

BBBB · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2003, 09:44:55 AM »

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Originally posted by CavemanJ
.357Sig is like .38Super

A playtoy.

If ya really want a Sig look for ones chambered for .40S&W or .45ACP

.357Sig is a play toy? Humph, what rock have you been living under. The .357 sig has excellent balstics, its low recoil, high engergy blow the .45 and .40S&W away. Keep in mind you need a bullet that is easy to control, so that you have good shot placement, as well as good pentration. The .357 Sig offers both of these.
Off duty I carry a Glock 33 in .357 sig, I own all three that Glock makes 31, 32, and 33, but for concealed carry the G33 is the way to go. You have to take alot of things into account when your selecting a round for home defence or CCW. You first need to fully understand Terminal Ballistics. I have studied this for years now, and I still am learning things about this.
Our atmosphere is approximately 400 times less dense than a humans soft tissue. So while some ballistic data looks good on paper how it truly holds up is what is important. The .45 Bullet is great man stoper. However there are bullets out there, that are far better choices than just a .45. The .357Sig is one of those rounds. I would go to a range and shoot the .357Sig round. I mean really shoot it. Fire about a 1,000 rnds or so out of one. Just to get a better feel for it. If after a 1,000 rnds your shot placement is good, then it might be something to look at. This is the same for any round you select. Shot placement is key. In the right hands a .22LR is deadly. http://www.glock.com/_357.htm

Animal · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2003, 09:51:34 AM »

BBBB, for a person who wants to get into guns with a Glock, which one would you recomend more, a Glock 23 or a Glock 33, all things considered?

The 33 seems attractive for concealment.

Gman · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2003, 10:31:03 AM »

Guys, Funked didn't ask about the .45, I'm sure he knows and has read about all its virtues.

I'm a .45 shooter myself, but the .357 SIG has a lot to like.

Also being a SIG distributor, I'm somewhat biased. The Air Marshalls, and the USSS are 2 good examples of units using the .357 Sig.

The major advantage of course with this round is velocity. A 124 Grain bullet will be going warp speed, in the 1400++ range. This round (well, the 125 in the .357 Magnum) is by far the best performer for stopping naughty people according to multiple agencies statistics. The SIG round replicates this in an auto is all.

Not only does the 357 sig perform well against soft targets, the added velocity also gives you an advantage against perps wearing body armour, depending on the bullet type and the load behind it. Speer Gold Dot ammo is probably your best bet.

I won't drone on and bore everyone, just check out some of the information on the 357 sig sites out there. All I can say from personal experience is that it's very loud, the recoil is a bit sharper than a typical 40 round, but less than a full up .357 magnum round from a revolver. Muzzle flip is a bit more pronounced, but Funked is a big guy, shouldn't be an issue with proper stance and grip anyhow.

The bellow is an excellent resource.

http://www.handguninfo.com/Archive/www.Pete-357.com/#Main

Mini D · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2003, 10:35:16 AM »

Funked is a big guy... but he has limp wrists.