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Offline FlyingDuckSittingSwan

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« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2001, 11:56:00 AM »
Hazed...on a serious note, as you're in the same time zone as me, do you play many scenarios? Cos I get the impression that us Europeans have to wake up at ridiculous hours to play. Are there scenarios us anglo-saxons can play at a decent time?

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« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2001, 12:05:00 PM »
Fly;

I think you're going to find it a tough decision between the two. If you were talking about WWII Online at release, you'd probably be taking the box back to the store within 2 days.

But the game has come a long way since release. What it lacks is stability, population, and a decent communications system. The lack of teamwork is more endemic in WWII Online because under numerous conditions it is just impossible to communicate with the guy 2 feet from you.

However, the gameplay, the features, the detail and the fact that a new front end for spawning etc is due out soon, makes things seem hopeful for WWII Online.

WWII Online has great potential. The question is whether it will ever be realised or not...

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« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2001, 01:24:00 PM »
kfsone-

Exactly right. Those are make-or-break points for most, and they broke for me. No hard feelings on those that stay, just want to be straight with people talking about trying it. You have been fair, more than most that enjoy the other game.

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« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2001, 01:36:00 PM »
Wow....a great start that degenerated to garbage.

I'd agree with the majority of the posters here...your at the front end of a steep learning curve. If you stick it out, you'll love it...if you choose to blame your shortcomings on the game you'll simply lose out in the long run. All the things you cant do are easily done...no ones brought trim at all (unless I missed it)...combat trim can cause issues on quick change of speed manv...thats why most vets (not all) trim manually.

As for realism...there are a lot of pilots flying this game...many feel its pretty good. Before you bash it go spens some coin on one of the "air combat" rides...I found I could give the instructers a pretty good run for my money...not quite the same...since the G's aren't modeled...but everything (down to the spins) were reasonalby close...course its just plain different for real.

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« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2001, 05:23:00 PM »
hmmm, well, you've barely been here two weeks and you're making some interesting claims.

Everyone here knows what I use the Tiffie for... BnZ - whats the most common manoevre I see used against me by the better pilots? Barrell Rolls and Scissors. I see it ALL THE TIME.

How do I land my tiffie most of the time? 3 pointers is how. I don't remember the last time I had to push the nose down to land. Hell I even put a 262 down on a CV, try that as a nose down landing - you wouldn't stop in time. If you can't land like this you've got some serious issues.

As for the realism, well not too long ago HTC tweaked the roll rate in the tiffie. So I decided to do some research, and guess what - every piece of material I could find reinforced the AH peformance of the tiffie, roll rate, dive characteristics, zoom capabilities, gun platform stability etc. HTC nailed it. I don't know bout the rest of the aircraft but I can tell you the AH tiffie is what real Tiffie pilots said a tiffie was. That says to me HTC know what they're doing.

If people are 'running' - get a faster plane. Only a moron expects people to fly a P51, 109G10, or 262 even like Spit. If a BnZer decides to extend or even disengage, thats his perogative, thats why they fly the fast planes. If you insist on flying a turner don't expect us to engage in a turnfight just because you want it that way.

MS/EA etc deliberately go for simplified FMs, its how you get box sales. The average AH punter is a dead keen simmer, not your average CFS/Flight Sim 2002 player. If MS FMs are so toejam hot why are the 'realism' patches available for CFS2?

Humble? Maybe you should read your own posts. Its pretty obvious you ARE a "noob" when you can't perform a simple split-S in a spit. My god thats the easiest of manoevres. Saying how you're so experienced contradicts the fact you can't complete simple manoevres. Reading between the lines its obvious you're ham-fisted and are trying to blame this on AH.

Whos laughing at who? I'm laughing at the dweeb who can't perform a barrel roll, split S, or land. My god I've seen guys who haven't played as many sims as you claim you have and can perform these moves easily within the two weeks. LOL, what a loser.


 
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Not to pee in anyones beer (or rootbeer would be morre realistic) but why is AH the most realistic flight sim?

a) According to who?
b) None of you have had experience flying WW2 planes so you're all talking out yer backsides when you say this.
c) I don't care if HiTech has flown a mustang for an hour, I doubt he tested it to the outer edge of it's flight envelope. Yeah right, with such a rare aircraft I doubt they let him take too many risks.
d) If everyones so good, why was I always asking people to turn back and fight instead of run.    :D    :D    :D
e) Why does AH have the monopoly on realism? Have they found the holy grail of FM data information in WW2? Have they attained/stolen information which was not viable to public viewing?
f) So you're actually saying that Microsoft, EA and all other such companies, with mega spending power, could not buy better resources/testers/data then a relatively tiny company?

Please, be realistic.   :rolleyes:

The thing that puts me off are arrogant people, and I see plenty on this message board. Try being more humble for everyones sake. Nobody made you "judge of flight model realism" last night, so get off your high horses, or I'll continue laughing in your direction.

Flame away...I'm laughing at you too hard to even care.    :D    :D    :D

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« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2001, 06:11:00 PM »
I'd suggest not giving up on AH yet. I tried WWII Online and was very disappointed on their "realistic" flight models. This takes some getting used to, but once you do it's actually easier than games like Fighter Ace and Airwarrior. The options it presents makes combat much more rewarding.

And don't worry about the egocentrics within the game. I'm sure once us newbies get proficient, we'll develop ego's of our own and fit right in.

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« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2001, 07:30:00 PM »
Asta la vist SDSW...  :cool: "How about a light?"..  :D
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« Reply #97 on: November 26, 2001, 08:18:00 PM »
Dudewhen i first tried Aces High i wasnt to happy wi5th the way the aircraft handeld, and after my 2 weeks gave up, i loved the resst just not the flight model.

A month or two later i got so fed up with Warbirds (which i ws with for years) and the constant 109 A6M dogfights that i decided to bit the bullete and enrole on Aces high, after a month of frustration i finally gfot it and eveything clicked, now i love Aces High, this game you just have to get used to.

Im not sure if its a accurate flight model (Never owned a spitfire) but once youget used tro the flight model, its all damn fine fun.

Also WWIIonline in my opinion is darn cool, if your rig can hadle it with decent frame rates its one hell of a game, and for thos that bang on about WWIIonline community is lacking, well the server can hold about 3500 i think, last time i logged on there we had 35% full, hmm thats over a thousadn online at once, Aceshigh has 270, Aces high is still alive and kicking and so is WWIIonline, youll either love igt or hate it.

Personaly i love both games for diffrent reasons.

Tryy WWII and come back and give Aces high a good longh bash, give it a month of effort. takes getting used to but after that its fun ~!!!!!

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« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2001, 01:58:00 AM »
I want to see the proof.  I want to see film of you not doing a barrel roll.

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« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2001, 02:02:00 PM »
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4) The flight model. Although in general good, I just think they bleed way too much E too fast. <deletia>

6) Something else about the flight model...the planes (fighters)were really hard to get under 100 mph..for example when landing, I like to flare at the bottom,

Just something for you to think about Duck.
If the flight model bleeds E too fast, why are you having trouble gettting your airspeed under 100mph?

If you line your approach up, drop some flaps, drop your gear (all at appropriate airspeeds), yep, you can easily stall it right onto the runway.  It's the best way to land a hog.  In a hog, I try to touch down around around 90 mph.

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« Reply #100 on: November 27, 2001, 02:08:00 PM »
100 i love to count! hahahaha

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« Reply #101 on: November 27, 2001, 03:50:00 PM »
AKCurly...that's why I thought maybe the FM had some quirks. Cos I can't complete a split-s through rapid E bleed but I can't bleed E when trying to land at extremely low speeds. I didn't say the FM was way off or anything like that. I just said it may have some quirks. That's all.

Well, I've come to a decision about WW2Online. I've been reading their forum for a while now, and I read recently something worrying about CRS lay-offs. So I decided I'm gonna wait for the UK release...because you never know. And who knows when that will be.  :mad:   :(  So I might play this for a while.

Hooligan..I will show you what I mean. I'll do a few attempted split-s and an attempted proper landing. Just give me some time to do it, cos I'm a bit busy now.
BTW, I know you're only asking so you can laugh at me. But I'm game   :(

I would like to see how many of you have taken on a squad of 3 planes, so it was a small tight formation...they attacked me and were all on my six and I managed too shoot down 2 and the 3rd got me bad, but I was still able to shoot him down, but I crashed later. They were all 1 squad, but can't remember the name of it. I remember the planes though..it was a 109, a 202 and something else....anyone know who flies them in a squad? Own up if it was you!!! Is that flying or is that flying?   :cool:

No wonder they run away from me...  :D   :D

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« Reply #102 on: November 27, 2001, 04:24:00 PM »
You're not gone yet?

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« Reply #103 on: November 27, 2001, 04:50:00 PM »
Piece of advice if you're gonna stay Dead Duck Roasted Swan:

Keep the criticism of the flight model on the back burner until you learn how to get off the bottom of the food chain, ok?

2 weeks is nowhere near long enough to accurately judge the FM, especially if you can't do maneuvers the rest of us use repeatedly.  Might be worth keeping that in mind, especially if you're gonna troll the boards.

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« Reply #104 on: November 27, 2001, 04:52:00 PM »
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Humble? Maybe you should read your own posts. Its pretty obvious you ARE a "noob" when you can't perform a simple split-S in a spit. My god thats the easiest of manoevres. Saying how you're so experienced contradicts the fact you can't complete simple manoevres. Reading between the lines its obvious you're ham-fisted and are trying to blame this on AH.

 

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I'm not sure if I can't write...or you can't read  :D

I never indicated that I have any problem with any of the moves in question. Or made any comments on my level of proficiency...however be more than happy to match tiffies...or any other plane...with you.

Not from a "I'll show you"...but simply as a little fun...win or lose most folks find me a decent challenge 1 vs 1.

The whole thrust of my post was/is simple...the FM's are all pretty good and that the over quality of the players is quite high. It's a big step up from his previous set up expectations.

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