Author Topic: Anti-virus software and this game (Read 1219 times)

rc51 · « **on:** May 12, 2003, 10:45:21 PM »

Why Is this the only online game I play that I have to disable
my anti virus software?
I really don't like being online with my pants around my ankles.
HTC Can't you write the code so people don't have to shut down there anti virus software?

Xjazz · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2003, 11:15:12 PM »

Hi,

I had no probs with several antivirus&firewall sw plus AH...

Check your settings

Tarmac · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2003, 11:55:20 PM »

never had a problem with norton or mcafee and AH.

MwXX · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2003, 12:01:27 AM »

I use AVG control Center....

Never had any probs...also u Sygate firewall...

no problems there either..

SunKing · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2003, 12:42:27 AM »

What problem are you having? AV popping up and crashing AH?

Frost · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2003, 01:48:28 AM »

I have Norton running all the time with no problems and no complaints of warping.

Saintaw · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:09:13 AM »

NTAV slows it down for me too, I disabled the auto-scan when I play online, but keep my firewall on.

As long as you don't download anything else while playing, I think you're safe.

Maniac · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:17:15 AM »

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I really don't like being online with my pants around my ankles.

You should read up on what an anti-virus software does... I can say this you are not safe djust because you have an anti-virus software installed.

If you need pointers or info about comp security djust PM me. I have some extensive knownledge about this

The ultimate fun is to have an sales representant of an Anti-virus software on an buisiness meeting, and you shoot big holes in their product.

The common computer user is fooled by the AV industry...

Fishu · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:36:56 AM »

Theres absolutely no need to keep anti-virus program active when playing.

I find spyware/adware much more potential threat than the viruses - those can come with programs and games as planned part of the package!
I hate those software publishers who makes deals with these spyware/adware companies.

...and thats something what for you need an anti-spyware/adware program, since virus program doesn't help and those will be very likely existing on computers of the people whos never scanned for spyware/adware.

The last viruses I've met, have been just dropping into the email, but those are easily defeated by deleting without accessing those.
Last non email virus which I met, was 8 years ago, which I caught on a routine scan of files I had downloaded.

Last spyware/adware spottings.. constantly!

Chairboy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2003, 12:02:08 PM »

Maniac,

Ever hear of Lovegate? It looks for shares with weak passwords and logs into them and infects the machine. This can happen while you are playing Aces High.

If you have a good antivirus program running, it can catch the infection as it is being written to the disk and prevent it.

Let's try another scenario... you have outlook running minimized while you're in the game, lots of players do. While you are playing, it checks for new mail every 5-15 miles. Someone who is infected who has you in their address book sends you an infection. Your machine downloads the message, and the virus exploits one of the many security holes in Outlook to send itself to all your friends then delete files on your system.

Again, if you had a good antivirus program, the infection would be prevented.

Maniac, your technical understanding of what antivirus software does is a little out of date. I hope you aren't spreading that stuff around, you might be responsible for a lot of vulnerable computers.

I'm in software development at Symantec, so if you have any questions, please feel free to email me at bhallert@symantec.com so I can clear up any other misconceptions you might have.

Zanth · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2003, 12:34:23 PM »

There is stuff that will get by antivirus programs alone. I see it all the time in the shop. You need somethign like Pestpatrol as well as a hardware or software firewall product - and even then you only 98% secure. If you ignore warnings, lower security for certain web sites, fall behind in your windows updates, open ports etc., etc., you gonna leave holes.

All you can do is do what is reasonable for your online machine/network - and keep important stuff air-gapped, which is the only 100% online security.

rc51 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2003, 01:48:55 PM »

I'm talking about zone alarm.
Maybe i should have said firewall sry for the miss understanding.
It locks up my machine hard.
Have to do a hard reboot.

Chairboy · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:19:24 PM »

I think there's a way to use Zone Alarm, you just need to memorize a key sequence to 'Permit' for the alert that has popped up behind Aces High. The problem is that Zone Alarm doesn't know how to act when there is a DirectX window up, so the alert that it is showing is behind everything and makes your computer look locked up. Most firewalls do this, it's a limitation of DirectX and very hard to get around.

Norton Internet Security works with Aces High, if you ever decide to switch.

Maniac · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2003, 03:11:47 PM »

LOL!

Chairboy!!

I can take any known virus/backdoor and hide it from you symantec guys in less then 10 mins...

About your Outlook comment, that is completly true!! you should turn off all apps while gaming including the mail client...

About lovegate, thx for the tip, im googling for it now!

Maniac · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2003, 03:13:35 PM »

Ah its an worm... i never mess with worms...

If it is to infect you by network shares, well someone on your internal network has to be infected to start with, and most people know by now not to share folders or drives with the WHOLE INTERNET!!! Djust get rid of Netbios and your set...

Oh, heres another statement from me:

The antivirus companys will never be able to stop trojans.

To the rest of you, if you are thinking about investing in an AV-software, go for Kapersky Labs, they are the leaders in this industry... All the AV companys are the same, its djust the speed their AV database gets updated that differs (almost anyway).

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Let's try another scenario... you have outlook running minimized while you're in the game, lots of players do. While you are playing, it checks for new mail every 5-15 miles. Someone who is infected who has you in their address book sends you an infection. Your machine downloads the message, and the virus exploits one of the many security holes in Outlook to send itself to all your friends then delete files on your system.

And another scenario is that i send you an modifed version of the virus (10 mins of hex editing) and it still gets through your Symantec AV...

Worms and malicius virues THAT SPREAD THEMSELFS are always gonna be cought up by the AV industry, but boy aint that an small part of it all in the big picture!

Hell theres 13 year olds beating you guys...