Author Topic: It takes a village? (Read 1194 times)

AKIron · « **on:** May 20, 2003, 08:42:44 AM »

Guess not everyone agrees.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,87286,00.html

NUKE · « **Reply #1 on:** May 20, 2003, 08:52:24 AM »

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African American history.
That takes precedence over math and science and all other subjects, because if they don't know who they are or where they came from then I don't believe they will know where they are going," Johnson said.

Everybody knows that African - American history takes precedence over math and science and all other subjects , and if you are not taught it, you will never know who you are or where you're going

What a moron. That'd be considered a racist statement if a white person made a similar statement about white- American history.

And I say white American history, just as people that say African -American history really mean black- American history.

Why can't they just be taught American history? Isn't that pretty much all inclusive, since we are all Americans?

lazs2 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 20, 2003, 08:54:15 AM »

while I agree that allmost any schooling is better than public schooling... the blacks seem to be doing it for the wrong reasons. they put african and black history above math and science... you are not gonna get far with a head full of african history. Plus... it will just make you annoying.
lazs

OIO · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2003, 09:36:09 AM »

ive always found this issue to be controversial. You get people like jesse jackson whining and beatching about racial this and that and unfairness this and that... and yet they themselves actively work to make things unfair for those that dont share the shade of his skin.

Then theres this african-american "label". Seems to me the only ones pushing to label themselves as such are those that fall under said category. And why? To get more benefits than those that are not under their label. Its like brand naming (TM) yourself. oh, the exclusivity of me! And raise hell if the other brands dare say they are just like me.

I see little difference between those kind of people and the KKK. At least one of the 2 has the decency to act and dress like the morons they are.

midnight Target · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2003, 09:50:27 AM »

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Mark Mabson, a homeschooling father, said, "I want to be looked upon as an individual and as an individual I want to do what is best for my family, I don't have to follow with the majority."

The Mabson family feels that the public school system is failing on numerous levels and is moving away from what is right to what is politically correct.

"We can teach our own morals, we can still say the Pledge of Allegiance, we can teach them about our country and loyalties," adds Karen Mabson, Mark's wife.

Exactly the same type of sentiment most of the right wingers on this board have been advocating.

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the blacks seem to be doing it for the wrong reasons. they put african and black history above math and science... you are not gonna get far with a head full of african history. Plus... it will just make you annoying.

Generalizing an entire race based on a quote by a single member is annoying too.

lazs2 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 20, 2003, 09:52:23 AM »

well... i don't mind a Scottish events weekend or a St Patricks day or cinco de mayo where everyone gets to be a Scot or an Irishman or a Mexican for a day but... Too much is too much.... especially if they whine about it.
lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 20, 2003, 09:56:31 AM »

and mt... if they are doing it to give their children a better education then they are doing everyone a service... but... why even add the crap about african history in the article? Hard not to generalize when everything you read that has blacks in it is so open to being generalaized and trivialized. It's allmost like the liberals want us to be seperate... oh wait..
lazs

miko2d · « **Reply #7 on:** May 20, 2003, 10:26:57 AM »

NUKE: Why can't they just be taught American history? Isn't that pretty much all inclusive, since we are all Americans?

Obviosuly not - and getting less so by the year. Once the american society released it's claim on the cultural preeminence within its own country, the disintegration was inevitable.

Historically, democracies always break appart on the ethnic/cultural lines since radical politicians playing on the local feelings of ethnic superiority/inferiority and envy will always prevail over more reconciliatory politicians in their ethnic populations.

Once the process of forced assimilation is abandoned and even natural assimilation is prevented - by educating children in languages other than english and theaching them history/culture other than the prevailing one, rather than in addition to the prevailing one - the process is self-accelerating.

miko

AKIron · « **Reply #8 on:** May 20, 2003, 10:28:03 AM »

I think safety and a chance for a better education are the reasons for this growing situation. The African-American history thing was thrown in as someone's attempt to tack on their political cause, ride the coat tails kind of thing.

Sandman · « **Reply #9 on:** May 20, 2003, 02:00:38 PM »

Hmmm... with regard to American History, it seems to be very regionalized, IMO. Perfect example is California. We spent a lot of time on California history and the Civil War was pretty much glossed over. I don't really believe there such a thing as an all inclusive American history.

gofaster · « **Reply #10 on:** May 20, 2003, 02:17:26 PM »

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The Mabson family feels that the public school system is failing on numerous levels and is moving away from what is right to what is politically correct.

Well, they got that part right.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 20, 2003, 02:30:05 PM »

I think Black history has been excluded from most history books for a long time for various reasons and they should be added in.

The problem we have now a days is that some people go overboard on what they think should be added.

Black History month is one example of going to far. I can't find ANY better example of racism other than maybe a KKK rally.

Montezuma · « **Reply #12 on:** May 20, 2003, 04:15:20 PM »

All we need to do is pass a comprehensive school voucher program and then we'll be sending our money to guys like this.

midnight Target · « **Reply #13 on:** May 20, 2003, 04:19:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Hmmm... with regard to American History, it seems to be very regionalized, IMO. Perfect example is California. We spent a lot of time on California history and the Civil War was pretty much glossed over. I don't really believe there such a thing as an all inclusive American history.

True

hawk220 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 20, 2003, 04:26:44 PM »

Black History month is one example of going to far. I can't find ANY better example of racism other than maybe a KKK rally

you're kidding, right? you are comparing black history month with a KKK rally? how is black history month racist? its not. I don't see systemic black privelige inherent in black history month. no one is forcing you to behave black during that month or any other for that matter. isnt this what you rednecks have wanted since Brown v Board of Education? for blacks to get out of your pure white schools? jesus christ ,make up your minds.