Author Topic: What has happened to AH? (Read 5195 times)

Arlo · « **Reply #150 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:14:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Urchin, Batz, Soviet, Heinkel, Brady, AG, and a tonne of other top notch pilots I used to fly with in 2/JG-3. Half the squad just upped and quit because Aces High has changed.

Brady and I have tried to make it real again in the Combat Theatre - improve gamplay. Bring back the dogfights - the hard earned attacks to capture a base. Bomber runs. But the strategy currently incorporated into Aces High is porked.

Urchin is right about the MA. It sucks. Bad. Dogfights where you could actually run into another squad and duke it out for 30 minutes is virtually non-existant now.

I'm pinning my hopes on AH2.

You sure seem to have Fork convinced you did. Nice touch having a proxy play drama queen for you so you can have a convenient "out." Besides, nobody was fooled for a sec.

You pizz and moan and carry on. My flying has nothing to do with it really ... other than to provide you with a supposedly good excuse to pee your diaper every single time you log on to the server or the board.

I'm having a blast and either I'll get better or I won't. But ... and this may sound familiar to you ... I just like calling it like I see it. And in you I see misery. Eh, some are stuck there from birth, I reckon.

Batz · « **Reply #151 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:40:41 PM »

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Urchin, Batz, Soviet, Heinkel, Brady, AG, and a tonne of other top notch pilots I used to fly with in 2/JG-3. Half the squad just upped and quit because Aces High has changed.

Well that is correct for the most part JG2 ended in Jan at that time all of them and myself "quit". But not for the reasons you attribute and there certainly were not many times that I have "quit". Your were lying when you implied that.

All the pizz 'n moanin that bugs ya can be squelched or ignored. However, calling you a wuss is no more or less whining then you do your self. I mean you put yourself in this thread only be able to throw out "whiner". If it bugs so then why bother?

A few phrases like wuss and runner here and there dont mean much. Its not until you attempt to debate the subject that it ends up more.

If I see you in an arena and you run the I will say, "You running wuss" and go else where. Its not until you start bs'ing and trying to rationalize your lameness that anything else gets said. It doesnt bother me a bit calling you a liar and a wuss. Just accept that and that would be it.

Its you that whined about ah2:tod and training, its you that whined about the cms tweaking of the arenas. Its you that whine about the big "pik as" axis conspiracy to deny a good f4u pilot like yourself the chance to have "fun".

Those are real whines. Stating the obvious like calling you a lying runner may be unnecessary but its factual.

Arlo · « **Reply #152 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:43:54 PM »

Yeah ... guess it can be argued that one's perception is one's reality. You go girl! Whine on!

Arlo · « **Reply #153 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:53:33 PM »

rofl

I anticipate a rather interesting and complex relationship for years to come.

Steve · « **Reply #154 on:** June 09, 2003, 07:03:31 PM »

Upped my trusty pony to work on dispelling some rumors about runstangs....: Booted
Upped again to dispel those rumors: Booted

Upped again, just to see if I could actually play this game: Booted

This kind of stuff is Great for my enjoyment of the game, thanks HT!!!!.

No, my conn to the internet is not porked, it never wavered.

Don · « **Reply #155 on:** June 09, 2003, 07:35:03 PM »

>>Please correct me if im wrong... Isnt bnz an "e fighting method"?<<

Technically you can say it is TW9 but, it isn't the same. BnZ you make yer plane act as a pendulum, swinging back and forth, dive down, miss, zoom back up, and continue the iterations until, if yer lucky, you kill something or lawndart.
"E" Fighting is a method where you keep the initiative and the advantage by diving down at an opponent, make him turn, and using vertical turns you keep the nme at a disadvantage by constantly having to react to your moves instead of vice versa. The more an nme turns to avoid you, the more E he burns, and the better your advantages are going to be.
With a pure BnZ approach, you don't turn, you keep flying the pendulum. It is best used in Furballs where you dive down and shoot at something, and zoom back up and away to get in position to do it again.

Arlo · « **Reply #156 on:** June 09, 2003, 07:56:16 PM »

Don, some would argue that what you described was just the difference between a poorly executed BnZ and a well executed one. I've never read a description of the "BnZ" requiring regular uniform "pendulum" style sweeps hoping the enemy gets in front of your crosshairs.

Bear in mind that I've never claimed to be good at `em, but I have been a student of it for awhile now.

Arlo · « **Reply #157 on:** June 09, 2003, 08:10:55 PM »

Shane's my old friend from way back in my AW days (well, he was Oopsy then). Gotta love his new alter EGO.

Hajo · « **Reply #158 on:** June 09, 2003, 10:16:52 PM »

Greunherz!

I was trying to be kind

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #159 on:** June 09, 2003, 11:57:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Don
>>Please correct me if im wrong... Isnt bnz an "e fighting method"?<<

Technically you can say it is TW9 but, it isn't the same. BnZ you make yer plane act as a pendulum, swinging back and forth, dive down, miss, zoom back up, and continue the iterations until, if yer lucky, you kill something or lawndart.
"E" Fighting is a method where you keep the initiative and the advantage by diving down at an opponent, make him turn, and using vertical turns you keep the nme at a disadvantage by constantly having to react to your moves instead of vice versa. The more an nme turns to avoid you, the more E he burns, and the better your advantages are going to be.
With a pure BnZ approach, you don't turn, you keep flying the pendulum. It is best used in Furballs where you dive down and shoot at something, and zoom back up and away to get in position to do it again.

Energy Fighting is the method of using your Energy to achieve an angle on your opponent of which there are many tactics you can employ to achieve this. BnZ is just one of quite a few tactics you can use, just like a Rope-A-Dope or a Vertical Eight. These tactics have in common the use of Energy to gain an angle on your opponent.

Ack-Ack

Bluedog · « **Reply #160 on:** June 10, 2003, 12:10:22 AM »

I found this very same problem a while back in AH, you know, every man and his dog flying a late war Russian bird, and no one willing to 'fight', which did tend to get a bit tedious.
I was sitting here thinking about the whole problem one day when the solution hit me like a left hook
So, I went down the back to the toolshed, grabbed a few blocks of wood, and stuck 'em under my desk's legs. raising the whole thing about 6 or 8 inches.
Then I pinched one of the high bar stool type chairs that we have in the kitchen, and used it for a flying chair.
Anyway, boredom in AH isnt a problem any more, the missus fits under there nicely, and that annoying 'bonk bonk bonk' sound is gone too

I couldn't care less what the cons do now.

He he, c'mon guys, lighten up, it is just a game after all.

PS if you happen to se a Knit 109 doing very wobbly loops in one spot, then augering, just ignore it, Im not really paying attention .

PPS, for an easier solution, involving less wood, just up a perk ride, EVERYBODY wants to fight ya then

lazs2 · « **Reply #161 on:** June 10, 2003, 08:05:14 AM »

hajo.. wasn't on yesterday and don't fly over 6k agl this tour. musta been some other "laz"
lazs

Ecke-109- · « **Reply #162 on:** June 10, 2003, 09:15:50 AM »

One short anecdote..

yesterday i flew in MA.
I was at 18k alt when i met a lonely spit which was about at 20k.when i closed,the spit dove down to its cv,hidding in the ack.
Ok..shiit happens...i let that spit alone and headed to a close friendly field,hopeing if i could intercept incoming enemies.But there was none.After a few minutes i headed back to the enemy-cv.I wanted to look after that spit.
when i arrived, i saw Blondy in a 109 turning with the spit a bit outside of ack-range.
Yeah....no mercy for ackrunners.And we both ganged the spit.
After a few turns, i was close behind the spit.But just before i could press the trigger, the spitpilot bailed out.I thought Blondy hit him before.but Blondy didnt.None of us got the killmessage.
Then Blondy told me that the spit did the same just before i arrived.

I was so surprised, that i forgot to kill his chute.

If bailing out or beeing killed, for the spitpilot, this sortie was finnished.The only difference was, that he safed his k/d rate.
How can someone be proud of his score while 'increasing' it this way?

I guess,that is what Urchin is talking about.
Nowadays you can see a lot of fearfull attempts of staying alive (or increasing someones score).So fearfull that some guys even refuse to have fun for their 15$.

May Arlo hop in now and call this a whine.(The only thing that he can do while spending hours in the forum instead playing the game) And maybe it is a whine.
I (and not only me) know that something has changed in MA.And it changes to the bad.

Ecke

Don · « **Reply #163 on:** June 10, 2003, 09:35:07 AM »

>>There are different forms of bnz, u just described 2 of em.. Regardless of how u e fight u are still bnz'ing..

Dont confuse BNZ with those run and ho'ers its not the same.. Not even close.. And btw when i get kills i hardly consider it lucky..<<

TW9:
It's symantics. And I am not confusing BnZ with runners; I know what and who they are

I see them all the time in the MA.
Hehe, I applaud you on your consideration of the quality of your kills, confidence is a good thing in all things

But my response was about a particular type of acm which is called "E"nergey fighting. I suggest that you read a book by a person named Shaw; a book about air combat manuevers which has been around the combat flight sim world for many years now. Its a good read, and will provide a lot of insights into air combat.

Don · « **Reply #164 on:** June 10, 2003, 09:37:23 AM »

>>Energy Fighting is the method of using your Energy to achieve an angle on your opponent of which there are many tactics you can employ to achieve this. BnZ is just one of quite a few tactics you can use, just like a Rope-A-Dope or a Vertical Eight. These tactics have in common the use of Energy to gain an angle on your opponent.

Ack-Ack<<

Bingo!!!