Some Squad Pix...

[Supe]

Originally posted by 2Hawks
--- Sometimes....

Who OWNS the COPYRIGHT?

WHOM Do I Contact about the copyright infringement.
 

Resolution is in the works, now give the info so we can be sure to contact the right person. As you seem to be so close to be able to offer retribution on their behalf.

2Hawks,

Perhaps I can explain things a bit clearer, to help clear up any misunderstandings. We, the Flying Pigs, are the owners of that picture. One of our squad members commissioned it from an artist, fully paid for, and with written guarantees that we do not use the image for profit (this was all done "by the book"). So, on top of the fact that the image is indeed the Flying Pigs property, it especially cannot be used for profit. This is from both our organization, and the artist.

Because we have specifically protected the image, we must be careful who "borrows" it. In the past, we have been approached by several groups who have asked permission in writing to use the photo (including a USAF bomber wing!), and we in turn have ensured that the artist has no problems with this. In your case though, we cannot let you use the pictures, even if it's for the simple fact that the Flying Pigs are an online squadron such as yourselves! Certainly we cannot let the picture be used for profit.

So, hopefully this will clear things up a bit, and let you see our point of view. We need to meet these kinds of copyright problems quickly, as it is not only our interest, but other peoples that are of concern (and this is why we somewhat abruptly requested you take down the picture). If you would be kind enough to remove that image from your website, and also from the cafepress items for sale, that would be greatly appreciated. I hope that you see things our way, and strive to bring your own unique identity of "Pigs on the Wing" to Aces High, and help us preserve our own.

(Editors Note)
Just read your last post. Not going to bother editing this, just so you can see where we're coming from, but it'll give you an idea WHY our motivations are relatively strong. Thanks for the "ball rolling", and we hope everything is straightened up soon.

Thank you for the understanding,
Clark "Supe" Merchant

[2Hawks]

Originally posted by Supe
2Hawks,

Perhaps I can explain things a bit clearer, to help clear up any misunderstandings. We, the Flying Pigs, are the owners of that picture. One of our squad members commissioned it from an artist, fully paid for, and with written guarantees that we do not use the image for profit (this was all done "by the book"). So, on top of the fact that the image is indeed the Flying Pigs property, it especially cannot be used for profit. This is from both our organization, and the artist.

Because we have specifically protected the image, we must be careful who "borrows" it. In the past, we have been approached by several groups who have asked permission in writing to use the photo (including a USAF bomber wing!), and we in turn have ensured that the artist has no problems with this. In your case though, we cannot let you use the pictures, even if it's for the simple fact that the Flying Pigs are an online squadron such as yourselves! Certainly we cannot let the picture be used for profit.

So, hopefully this will clear things up a bit, and let you see our point of view. We need to meet these kinds of copyright problems quickly, as it is not only our interest, but other peoples that are of concern (and this is why we somewhat abruptly requested you take down the picture). If you would be kind enough to remove that image from your website, and also from the cafepress items for sale, that would be greatly appreciated. I hope that you see things our way, and strive to bring your own unique identity of "Pigs on the Wing" to Aces High, and help us preserve our own.

(Editors Note)
Just read your last post. Not going to bother editing this, just so you can see where we're coming from, but it'll give you an idea WHY our motivations are relatively strong. Thanks for the "ball rolling", and we hope everything is straightened up soon.

Thank you for the understanding,
Clark "Supe" Merchant

Out of respect for the polite and informitive manner in which it was delivered and out of deference to the artists wishes that it not be used for profit the link to the merchandise page has been disabled immediatly pending rectification by the owner and controller of the POTW Merchandise website.

The link at the page will point to this thread until that has been resolved.

Thank You Supe for your Polite Response.

[2Hawks]

Thank you for your *Ahem* Patience.

Supe I thank you again for your response.

The infringement was not deliberate. Now everyone lets consider the issue finished.


Link: http://www.cafeshops.com/pigsonthewing.6925145

[Supe]

Originally posted by 2Hawks
Thank you for your *Ahem* Patience.

Supe I thank you again for your response.

The infringement was not deliberate. Now everyone lets consider the issue finished.


Link: http://www.cafeshops.com/pigsonthewing.6925145

Glad to see that, thanks for the quick response, and the understanding to our concerns. You can see the Flying Pigs are quite actively together as a group, by our quick defense of our artwork .

Sorry for the quick introduction to copyrighting of pictures there. You might want to check a couple other images on your site to make sure that someone else doesn't go ballistic too (!) Just a heads-up (other people might not have Drex and Sandman to help us out, and therefore they might go nuts on you!)

Oink Oink to War!
Supe

[SViking]

2Hawks -

Looks like this one was overlooked (check out the back side)...

http://www.cafeshops.com/pigsonthewing.6918130

[Lephturn]

Looks like it's all sorted out now.

Oink! Oink!  To War!

[Sandman]

Who would have thunk it? Posting a mere image link can be so perilous.

[frank3]

My brother wanted to borrow money from me, I said: when pigs can fly....

....im broke now...

[Swager]

Things are not always as they seem.

This never should of made it this far in the BBS.  Should have taken care of it in private e-mail instead of threating out in the open.

You should always think before you speak, or in this case "type".

Poor judgement gentlemen, regardless of how long you have been in flight sims of what you might be protecting.  

These types of conflict should not be posted for everyone to see.

Have a nice day!  

[2Hawks]

Originally posted by Swager
Things are not always as they seem.

This never should of made it this far in the BBS.  Should have taken care of it in private e-mail instead of threating out in the open.

You should always think before you speak, or in this case "type".

Poor judgement gentlemen, regardless of how long you have been in flight sims of what you might be protecting.  

These types of conflict should not be posted for everyone to see.

Have a nice day!  

A Very Valid point. A lesson for all of us.

My Apologies for those who had to witness this.

[hazed-]

Originally posted by 2Hawks
A Very Valid point. A lesson for all of us.

My Apologies for those who had to witness this.

this whole incident has tarnished my love of BB's FOREVER! Having been witness to this horrific slanging match using eloquent but somehow SAVAGE legal speak I feel somehow bruised and damaged!!

I would like some sort of compensation for my damages!

perhaps a poster of some sort?


.......involving pigs and maybe a big cannon shell?

[Maniac]

I want economic compensation for reading this thread...