Author Topic: Was it a good thing that the U.S. Gov't tried to prevent communism from spreading?  (Read 1712 times)

Offline gofaster

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hmm...  always thought it was the other way around


You may be right.  Military posturing and political treaties that didn't involve shooting never really held much interest for me.

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Curval said: "It really doesn't matter though...let me just say THANK YOU AMERICA for preventing the spread of Communism. Isn't that what you were after when you started this thread?"

Actually, the thought for this thread came from the LBJ thread.  Blame was laid on everyone for Vietnam from Truman to LBJ.  But getting to the heart of the matter, the very act of preventing communism from spreading in Korea, Vietnam and even our own country, came from the will of the American people and its Gov't.  And the question arose....was that a good thing?  I think most of us can honestly say "Yes", although can the cost be measured in lives lost? I think not.
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So who's to blame for cancelling Jet Warrior - Vietnam?  I've still got my $45 waiting for its release.

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So who's to blame for cancelling Jet Warrior - Vietnam?

LBJ!

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...ahh yes..the LBJ thread.  I opened it up and realised it was another Democrat vs Republican b*tch fest.

I try and stay out of them because I am not an American.
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Originally posted by Curval
...ahh yes..the LBJ thread.  I opened it up and realised it was another Democrat vs Republican b*tch fest.

I try and stay out of them because I am not an American.


Well, you *look* American, and you talk like an American, but you sure as hell don't hit your target like an American! :p

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Well, you *look* American, and you talk like an American, but you sure as hell don't hit your target like an American! :p


are you kidding me?  He's about as fuzzy and foreign as they come!

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..ummm

DAMN!

No come back on that one.:D
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lol Oct.

Got the second draft btw...many thanks.
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Communism is the source of all evil.
Even worse than Terrorism or Cataclysm.

If you suspect someone you know is a communist, please call the authorities, ok?

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Hey dont forget to thank the british and the Russians and Germans.

They stopped the french from spreading too!

but that was waaay back then... ;)

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Daring to be different?
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2003, 09:58:50 PM »
I'm someone who looks at the /theory/ of communism and thinks, "In an idealistic world, this would be great and wonderful."

Then thinks. "In the real world, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Communism: It looks good on paper, but toss human nature into the mix and you're in for a reeeal bad time.

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This is like asking was it right to oppose the axis in WW2...

There is no possible answer except for yes.

SaburoS you must be one of the most misinformed people in the world. If the USA and west didnt oppose communism there would have been no west berlin - stalins blocade in 48 would have taken care of that, there would have been no Taiwan - an economic powerhouse providing high standard of living to her citizens and hi tech innovations overseas, same for south korea - the communists would have taken care of those.  Then of course lets look at the lives of soviet citizens. With no western counterbalance and opposition communism would have spread its wonderful humane policies to hundreds of millions  even billions more people, they would get to know the love of the KGB and no freedom.  Eventually, feeling free to act with no consequences they would start a general world war to take everyhing. Remember the goal of communsm ever since lenin was always world revolution - meaning communist world domination. And you argue not opposing then would have  been better for world relations. Simply idiotic!

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Re: Daring to be different?
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2003, 10:19:19 PM »
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Originally posted by kesolei
I'm someone who looks at the /theory/ of communism and thinks, "In an idealistic world, this would be great and wonderful."

Then thinks. "In the real world, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Communism: It looks good on paper, but toss human nature into the mix and you're in for a reeeal bad time.


Yep great observation there! :)

But we know they also knew that, and so tried their best to remove all tracers of humanity from their populations. They destroed the family structure, destroyed religions, suppressed ethinc identies, forbade freedom of thought, frredom of ownership and self intest, freedom of choice and expression. Of course they also simply tried to remove masses of humans from the system alltogether.  Communism is simple slavery, all it has ever been and all it will be. It is by far the greatest evil of all time, nothing comes close....  

And knowing supporters of communism, on ANY scale are all responsible for its crimes.

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Simply idiotic!


I'm gonna have to take offense for him.

First of all, he has a different opinion- that doesn't mean his idea is simply idiotic. It just means you don't agree with it.

See, we only know this future and this result of our actions. Who's to say that if we didn't step up and doing anything about communism, that it wouldn't have folded over on itself? Who's to say that from the ashes of communism when it didn't work, we wouldn't have had just as ingenius people step up and create something even /better/ than what we have right now? Who's to say communism wouldn't have worked in the end? I mean, chances are it would have crumbled and been not pretty.. but what if it worked and survived? No one knows!

A mystery of life.