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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2003, 05:22:53 AM »
Your post is kinda stupid Fishu because its obvious that America has been involved in all manner of wars at home and abroad. Nobody is trying to hide that..

Hoever your moral postulating about european moral/political supremacy or sophistication is an obvious sign of selective amnesia when it comes to eauropean affairs.. You guys happily read off the ages of your old cathedrals but seem to forget the dreadful wars, the catastrohies and disaterous political misjudgements that mark the years in europe just as well as the fine guilded momentnts and operas you take so much pride in...

Sorry Fishu gotta try better counter that that...
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« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2003, 06:10:07 AM »
Well.. sounds like you're pretty much doing the talking for me, when you're making up words for me which I've never said.
Also seems like you're calling my posts stupid, whilst not looking at your own posts...

What a reasonable way to push your point :rolleyes:

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« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2003, 06:20:36 AM »
Yes fishu go on ignoring europes history of sophisticated mature seasoned behavior...

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« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2003, 06:29:39 AM »
Perhaps the goverments arent under issue here, but what they've learned from international and national politics in the course of history etc. (nation wise.. the goverments changes more or less frequently everywhere, but the nations itself doesn't)


This is what you said, the impliaction of some form of superior european  moral/political superiority is clear.

BTW that stement of yours is totaly incorrect, its the the people who are always changing - it is the challenge of a government system to keep up with the people, to keep meeting the peoples changing expectations, and the US government has been far more succesful that of most europen nations.  Even through enormous socail upheval in the US we have had the same form and style of govermnet, we have been a beacon of prosperity and satbnlity for 230 years and counting. How many overthrown governments has france had in  the same 230 year period as the usa?  How many has russia had? What about spain. Italy? Yugoslavia? Austria?

Yiur argument is wrong, your position indefensible, quite simply because its a flat out lie. And you keep making a fool of yourself for trying.

But hell why bother with me I'm just a juvenile american cowboy, not at all able to compete on your oh so sophisticated european
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« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2003, 06:55:39 AM »
Yours this yours that.. same to you, yours this yours that.

You sure do have the skill to read between the lines... perhaps theres also a need to examine it's validity besides the capability?


In this thread, I've hardly claimed anything concerning the topic itself, yet you somehow make up all these claims you say I've made or think I've made.. and stick to it like I'd have written it in the stone.
You've even made an argument of something I supposed.

Goes to show the bias? you tell me.
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« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2003, 07:52:09 AM »
what they've learned from international and national politics in the course of history etc.

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« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2003, 08:07:50 AM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Sweden Irellevant Country
Denmark Irrelevant Country
England - pretty good here IIRC WTG Brits./
Spain - Nope
Portugal - Prolly Not
Turkey - No way
Hungary - Nope
Russia - LOL Do we even have to discuss this?
France - No  How many revolutions? When did Napoleon rule? Is his form of govt still there? And yes I know of the code.

Just because peple have been living there doesnt mean the goverment has been continous and that they have been the same nation state. Those countries have had so much governmental and cultural upheaval that all of them are very young as of today - much younger as nations than america. Unless of course you think some old cathedrals are worth anything.  Yea tell me did the  Jews in the fine cultured German gas chambers take comfort in the fcat that Germany had beuitiful cathedrals? Itse irrelevant. If its just a matter of people loiving there than any inhabited part of the world can be said to be so old.


What the hell kind of drugs are you on anyway?

You asked if I could name any country "in Europe today that have had 230 years of continous goverment and organization as a state?" ALL the nations I listed have done so. Just because a government changes does not mean that a new nation is born you IDIOT.

Just what the hell do you mean when you ask for "continuous governement and organization as a state", and then claim that the US has existed like that for 230 years... HELLO...RETARD...Ever heard about the US Civil war?

Damn you are a dumb, brainwashed f***-head.

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« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2003, 08:16:03 AM »
This pissing contest, ripe with personal apprisals and uncommonly worthless diatribe can end now.  It's not even reflecting the topic anymore.
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