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Offline Toad

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« on: September 28, 2003, 11:18:42 AM »
Reading all these old "new" (or is it new "old"?) political threads got to wondering if there really is anyone that actually believes that one or the other of the two parties and/or the individual politicians that wear the labels really care anything at all about anything except themselves and their own success.

They do what they think they need to do to stay in power or get back in power.

Any benefit to the common citizen has to be considered a bonus and not necessarily part of the plan, merely a byproduct of the urge to rule.

Fer cripes sakes, both parties have held all offices at one time or another. Both parties have held majorities for extended periods.

Yet THE SAME OLD PROBLEMS NEVER GET SOLVED.

Go figure.

Wait, here... just to help you regain a non-threatening state of calm....

"It's all the _____________________ fault!!!!!"

Fill in the blank anyway you like.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2003, 12:21:59 PM »
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Any benefit to the common citizen has to be considered a bonus and not necessarily part of the plan, merely a byproduct of the urge to rule.


Absolutely. I'm amazed were not screwed over even worse than we are much of the time. The press helps prevent that somewhat, but even it is more on the inside than the outside once you reach Washington.

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2003, 12:49:41 PM »
Toad, I couldn't have said it better myself.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2003, 01:15:46 PM »
I gotta agree 100%,  and I'll even go one further.  if they ever got it together and stopped apposing each other we'd really be screwed.
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Re: Zero Sum
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2003, 01:19:20 PM »
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Originally posted by Toad

"It's all the ___13th TAS___________ fault!!!!!"

Fill in the blank anyway you like.


I'm sure you guys are responsible for the delay of AH2. I haven't figured out how you did it yet but I 'm watching ya. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2003, 02:11:40 PM »
Politics is a team sport.  You pick your team and root like crazy for them.  You shake your pom-poms and rabidly defend them.

It doesn't matter how bad the coach is nor that one of the first string players just got arrested on rape charges.  Your team will always be the best no matter what.

And just like the sport super stars, politicains don't give a flying **** about their fans.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2003, 03:04:08 PM »
I'm not much of a sports fan either.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2003, 05:18:14 PM »
I agree 100% Toad, I just hate the republicans more is all.  Nader said it best when he said that the difference between the parties is the speed wich their knees hit the ground to worship at the alter of big business.  Now big business has a lot going for it, ti is the very best example of human organization, but the inherent greed/profit motive causes so many decisions to be made without regard to the workers affected/environment/national interest/safety (untill the government forced them)


  I have thought for years that we need several more viable parties, and I always vote for a third party whenever I can.  


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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2003, 06:20:55 PM »
Yea but those third parties are a joke. And of course there is the "Catch 22" of thier existance - they have no power and no responsibilities and no decisions to make and nobody to be accountable to.  The second any of those third parties got power they would start playing the game with whatever interst groups were around at the time whether they be unions or business, same thing really - union is basically a corporation that sells value added labor services - so it's all the same. Of course there are also seniors groups, environmentalists, political activist groups, religious groups and so on and so on...

Frankly any government or administation regardless of party alignment will have to deal with these interst groups because in the end these intrest groups do represent segments of the population with viable and yes, often competing concerns - otherwise it would be a dictatorship.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2003, 07:00:07 PM »
Government is like trying to deal with "Corporate" at work. The higher up the person is, the harder they will screw you over just to get what they want, regardless of the consequences for you.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2003, 07:09:48 PM »
I believe the conservative path is less destructive and overall better for the individual and this country than its liberal counterpart

since one party is far left and going further left each year, I have to vote the other party for check and balance sake

term limits for all would help keep them honest
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2003, 10:46:24 PM »
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since one party is far left and going further left each year, I have to vote the other party for check and balance sake

term limits for all would help keep them honest


I belive the same thing, except change the far left to far right.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2003, 09:01:16 AM »
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I belive the same thing, except change the far left to far right.



guess we cancel each other out

Zero Sum :)
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2003, 09:08:21 AM »
I think the liberal view is much more patriotic.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2003, 09:35:11 AM »
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I think the liberal view is much more pathetic.


Me too. ;)
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