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muckmaw · « **Reply #150 on:** October 09, 2003, 12:04:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
i only give advice when i know it won't be wasted.

Not only are you a video game god, you're clairvoyant.

So as not to hijeck the thread with a pissing contest, let's just agree that you're an AH god and I'm a "Slobber Donkey.

Can we go back to the topic now?

oboe · « **Reply #151 on:** October 09, 2003, 12:17:06 PM »

This thread has turned into one big catfight!

Did you guys miss the quiet part of the thread where both sides found some middle ground? A proposed solution which stands a chance to increase diversity in the MA while not "limiting" any player's choice of rides?

It may not work as well or as quickly as perking, but the main thing is it is something BOTH sides can live with. I might add it probably requires simple data file of table changes and a server reboot and voila! I have no proof of that though.

Who has the biggest pull with HTC? Who can ask for this nicely?
Who owns some expensive Scotch they'd be willing to part with for the good of the community?

muckmaw · « **Reply #152 on:** October 09, 2003, 12:28:03 PM »

Does scotch get better with age?

I've got some stuff from the 70's in my basement.

Anyway, the idea has merit, but I wonder how much it will affect the arena considering many don't even know how perks are calculated and we also have the perk multiplier in effect.

LePaul · « **Reply #153 on:** October 09, 2003, 12:28:38 PM »

IN before lock

Shane · « **Reply #154 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:18:27 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
Can we go back to the topic now?

sure.

you say you're a creature of habit (tied to MA, won't try CT) who doesn't want to change that habit.

yet... you're trying to force change upon other creatures of habit.

see the irony?

beet1e · « **Reply #155 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:20:00 PM »

< fanfare > < the Queen’s corgis straining at the leash>

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"and beet1e.... "flying more carefully"... so now you want to dictate both what and how people fly. cool. the ultimate cover of suckage."

I waited in all afternoon, chewed my nails down to the first knuckle for that? Shane, I said it would be good to encourage people to RTB – ie discourage the suiciding. Of course, I can see that you think that dying is much more cool.

And then...

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"but the stat i find most amusing in beet1e's case is his general k/t... what's more easymode and not requiring attention than alting, cruising around swooping down for a cherry pick or 3 then running back to base?"

And the film to substantiate this would be... where did you say?

Mr. Toad! Muhahahahahaha!!! Awww, poor Toad. I’m sorry, Dude. I pushed you too far that time. I can always tell, when the walls start being built, and the red ink comes out.

You were typing so hard you dropped a left bracket off one of your IMG links.

I still don’t understand. If it’s easy to get kills in the F4U-1C, why don’t more people do it? It’s easy to get a 9-kill sortie in a CHog (I’ve done it, so it must be easy) and that would earn plenty of PP. Normally the CHog is the only perk plane I fly, and my PP balance shows a net increase from day to day.

Still, I have complied with your orders, and have been flying the F4U-1. First mistake was not learning the fuel system. In addition to the MAIN tank, I didn’t realise I had those wing tanks, so was flying around with much more fuel than needed. I got 7 kills and 4 deaths. The deaths were against a P51, a F6F, a TYPH, and a Spit – ie three in the Big 5, so what with trying to figure the plane out etc., I wasn’t too disappointed. Got a few bombers etc...

As with all Corsairs, I find the deflection shooting capability to be amongst the best in the game. Short .AHF film

So I will continue to comply with your instructions to fly the birdcage and se how I do.

MuckMAW - if Mr. Toad knows you've got 30 year old Scotch, he'll be over on the next flight!

Shane · « **Reply #156 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:27:16 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Shane, I said it would be good to encourage people to RTB – ie discourage the suiciding. Of course, I can see that you think that dying is much more cool.

discourage what suiciding? jabocides? perk the ord.

i don't know why you'd want people to emulate your style of gameplay. i mean take a good look at it - can we say "yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnn?"

but hey, that's *your* choice. peter principle and all that.

btw, don't you think maps with closer bases, i.e. a map like festerMA, encourages rtb because of their proximity?

beet1e · « **Reply #157 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:37:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
discourage what suiciding? jabocides? perk the ord.

i don't know why you'd want people to emulate your style of gameplay. i mean take a good look at it - can we say "yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnn?"

but hey, that's *your* choice. peter principle and all that.

btw, don't you think maps with closer bases, i.e. a map like festerMA, encourages rtb because of their proximity?

Blah blah, nothing new here.

Shane, you are the weakest link. G'bye.

muckmaw · « **Reply #158 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:38:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
sure.

you say you're a creature of habit (tied to MA, won't try CT) who doesn't want to change that habit.

yet... you're trying to force change upon other creatures of habit.

see the irony?

When did I ever say I would not try the CT?

Fact is, I flew 2 hours last tour in the CT. Check the stats, Ace. I know you've got that down to a science...oh wait...unless it does not support your argument.

I know 2 hours a tour may not sound like much to you, but I only do 30 hours of gaming a month on average.

muckmaw · « **Reply #159 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:39:51 PM »

BTW, I'm going to fly thr C-Hog tonight until I run outta perks...should be about 2 sorties...hehe..

I'll then revert back to the Ki-61 or I was thinking of trying the P-47.

I could still use some advice on how the Ki-61 should be flown.

Shane · « **Reply #160 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:43:03 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
When did I ever say I would not try the CT?

2) CT, though good, has it drawbacks as well. Here we usually have small numbers, and you end up fighting the same people over and over again.

Plane diversity, yes, pilot diversity no.

But the main problem with the CT is the fact that it's not the MA. Much like furballers like yourself Lament about moving to the DA,

people like me have an affinity for the MA.

So much as moving to another arena is not a solution for you, the same applies for me.

try not to take me so literally, major, you end up missing the point being made.

you do, however, need to make up your conflicted mind.

Furious · « **Reply #161 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:45:25 PM »

In true Rage3d fashion:

This thread is now about SHARKS!!

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #162 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:48:20 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
I could still use some advice on how the Ki-61 should be flown.

I find that it flies very much like an F6F and turns/scissors very closely with an F6F. Naturally some things differ; it's slower to accelerate and climb, but it dives very nicely. It's not as durable, but it packs a mean punch with its guns.

A Ki-61 with a little bit of alt/E on any non-perked plane in the game poses a serious threat.

-- Todd/Leviathn

muckmaw · « **Reply #163 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:55:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
try not to take me so literally, major, you end up missing the point being made.

you do, however, need to make up your conflicted mind.

Shane,

Your grasping at straws here. You've said I won't try CT, but when I demonstrate that I have, you say I'm conflicted because I find there are flaws with flying CT solely.

Unless you have something of substance to bring to this debate, I'm done with you. Have a great day!

DMF-

Are you telling me the 61 accelerates more slowely than the F6F or its just slower in general?

I was under the impression that this plane was a pure turn fighter. I did not know it was a E-Fighter.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #164 on:** October 09, 2003, 02:32:25 PM »

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Are you telling me the 61 accelerates more slowely than the F6F or its just slower in general?

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It accelerates marginally more slowly than the F6F at just about all altitudes. As far as speed goes, the Ki-61 goes roughly the same speed as the F6F (slightly slower under 5k without WEP; slightly faster from 5-15k without WEP; virtually indistinguishable between 5-15k with either one using WEP). The Ki-61 does not climb well however. It climbs as well with WEP as the F6F does without it.

It bleeds E well in turns, allowing for snapshot opportunities. If you connect with those guns, you'll cause some harm.

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I was under the impression that this plane was a pure turn fighter. I did not know it was a E-Fighter.

I consider it a pretty well-rounded if not underrated fighter. I've dueled NathBDP F6F vs. Ki-61 (we switched who flew what each round), and the duels came out even. Neither seemed particularly better than the other in a scissoring fight.

-- Todd/Leviathn