Friday Octrober 17th: The Soccer War...

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by Jester
There are some killer camo schemes for the P-51's though.

Post em Andi, I for one would love to see them.

[Tuck]

Originally posted by Arlo
I'm sure all of your setup ideas make this one pale in comparison but I've managed to miss them. What new setups have you researched and suggested?

well, as we're going for totally obscure and non-wwII related set-ups, how about any of the following:

seseme street vs. the electric company
the transformers vs. voltron
godzilla vs. mothra
the muppets vs. the muppet babies
scooby vs. scrappy
ren & stimpy vs. duckman
hatfields vs. mccoys (previously suggested)
he-man vs. thundar
young skinny elvi vs. old fat elvi

you can easily insert any aircraft type into any of the above suggested set-ups, as they'd all be ma-ish, much like this set-up promises to be.



honestly, i mean no disrespect to anyone who volunteers their time in an effort to create a game for other's to enjoy, but for crying out loud...let's keep focused on the time period the game was meant for.  if not, let's go ahead and do a setup with a star trek vs. battlestar gallatica theme.  Jesus H. people!

[Squire]

Godzilla vs Mothra would only work if it was Mecha-Godzilla. Mothra can fly where Godzilla can't, so Mecha-Godzilla has the rockets to counter that, besides Godzillas breath weapon is undermodelled, and hes is 50mph slower...

[Löwe]

Originally posted by TheBug
Although I respect the efforts to find a new and exciting setup.  I just wanted to add that my opinion is I very much prefer the quasi-historical WWII setups.(I say quasi only to acknowledge the planeset limitations)  I only speak that opinion to provide feedback to the CT staffers, not to trash their ideas.   I may fly a few times this week, I may not.  The set-up won't keep me out of the CT but it surely will not draw me in.  

Just picked up Forgotten Battle though, so I have a diversion for a week:)

Speaking of setup ideas, have you every tried going the other way and having less planes instead of trying to fit in more planes?  Have set-ups that highlight the action between two reknown air units for example.  The 56th FG versus JG26 for a rough example, allow only the fighter planes of each unit with maybe a couple support planes as background(for escort missions etc..), turn off base capture and then at the end of the week post an AAR on how each side faired??

Just an idea so that wingnut Arlo doesn't spill his fruit loops.

Great Idea Thebug

This would be a great idea to follow up on. With some research , I'll bet there are other great maychups , that could be fielded with the plane set. Including VMF-214 vs 6th Air Fleet , The early Rodeo's ran by the RAF into France. So on and so on.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Tuck
well, as we're going for totally obscure and non-wwII related set-ups, how about any of the following:

seseme street vs. the electric company
the transformers vs. voltron
godzilla vs. mothra
the muppets vs. the muppet babies
scooby vs. scrappy
ren & stimpy vs. duckman
hatfields vs. mccoys (previously suggested)
he-man vs. thundar
young skinny elvi vs. old fat elvi

you can easily insert any aircraft type into any of the above suggested set-ups, as they'd all be ma-ish, much like this set-up promises to be.



honestly, i mean no disrespect to anyone who volunteers their time in an effort to create a game for other's to enjoy, but for crying out loud...let's keep focused on the time period the game was meant for.  if not, let's go ahead and do a setup with a star trek vs. battlestar gallatica theme.  Jesus H. people!

I don't know which is funnier in this post ... Tuck's apparent inability to distinguish between an actual historical setup (albiet outside the 1939-1945 timeframe) or his apparent taste in entertainment outside AH.

Amusing    but only a 2 this time. Needs some real meat to it.

[Reschke]

Originally posted by storch
Well Reschke, since the top gun gun for honduras flew a 20mm type hog, obviously more than just a passing presence, since nowhere do i see the jug even mentioned in the engagements reports why i just thought well put the CHog in already, but that's just me.  I'm liking the MA more and more each day BTW.

I found a source in my initial research which listed the P-47 as an aircraft that was in the inventory of Honduras during the soccer war. But now have another source which shows Honduras as never having the P-47 in their inventory.

Honduras Air Force (FAH)

So without having definitive evidence to show that one side had it I will shoot Brady an email to pull the P-47 out of the setup. As for the reference to the 20mm F4U that is the only evidence that shows they had 1. I have not found any reference to the numbers of cannon armed F4U's for either side. Only that they had F4U-4's and FG-1D's opposing each other as well as P-51D's.

Below is the listing from ACIG.org where I found the 20mm reference. For all I have found there could have only been 1 20mm armed F4U flying for the FAS at that time.

Country Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Country
El Salvadore 15Jul69   FG-1D E.Echevarria 12.7mm F-4U-5 Honduras*
El Salvadore 15Jul69   FG-1D R.G.Cortez 12.7mm F-4U-5 Honduras*
Honduras 15Jul69   T-28D R.Mendoza 12.7mm FG-1D FAS**
Honduras 15Jul69   F4U   20mm C-47 FAS**
El Salvadore 17Jul69   FG-1D P.H.Lobo 12.7mm F-4U-4 Honduras*
Honduras 17Jul69   F-4U-5 F.Soto 20mm F-51D FAS
Honduras 17Jul69   F-4U-5 F.Soto 20mm FG-1D FAS
Honduras 17Jul69   F-4U-5 F.Soto 20mm FG-1D FAS

[Reschke]

Originally posted by TheBug
Although I respect the efforts to find a new and exciting setup.  I just wanted to add that my opinion is I very much prefer the quasi-historical WWII setups.(I say quasi only to acknowledge the planeset limitations)  I only speak that opinion to provide feedback to the CT staffers, not to trash their ideas.   I may fly a few times this week, I may not.  The set-up won't keep me out of the CT but it surely will not draw me in.  

Just picked up Forgotten Battle though, so I have a diversion for a week:)

Speaking of setup ideas, have you every tried going the other way and having less planes instead of trying to fit in more planes?  Have set-ups that highlight the action between two reknown air units for example.  The 56th FG versus JG26 for a rough example, allow only the fighter planes of each unit with maybe a couple support planes as background(for escort missions etc..), turn off base capture and then at the end of the week post an AAR on how each side faired??

Just an idea so that wingnut Arlo doesn't spill his fruit loops.

Looks like a good idea Bug. If you want some help in checking for aircraft matchups both ETO and PTO give me a shout and I will help out. I like a good matchup when I can get one and when I was doing scenarios for Fighter Ace we tried really hard to put in various things similar to where we would have specific squadrons facing off in a time frame where the action was documented to have taken place.

[Slash27]

Godzilla vs Mothra would only work if it was Mecha-Godzilla. Mothra can fly where Godzilla can't, so Mecha-Godzilla has the rockets to counter that, besides Godzillas breath weapon is undermodelled, and hes is 50mph slower...


Squire I think you are way off with this post. While Godzilla's atomic breath may be undermodelled, his ability to magnatize himself seems to be right. While Mecha-Godzilla has a potent arsenal of hand rockets and his own version of atomic breath, Godzillas ability to magnatize himself always leads to Mecha-Godzilla having his head torn off.......  oh wait a minute, I read your post wrong.  Mothra vs Mecha-Godzilla...... ah.....  This seems to be a thin veiled attempt to leave Godzilla out of another set up to me. You guys whine him out of every set up  or have him perked and available from only 1 base and thats bull****   If you guys would just learn to avoid HO'ing his atomic breath you'd be alot happier in here. Learn some damn MCM for ****s sake! Its not fair to punish all because your a lamerhumperlemmingtardlet. If you guys would use Mothra right and come in with alt you might get some where. Besides you guys have a huge untapped resource in King Ghidra (Monster 0). I mean 3 heads shooting lighting and he's 400 MPH faster than Mecha-Godzilla at 15k. Who cant get kills with that? I know you guys whine about Rodan running him down on the deck but fly smart use his advantages. 3 heads dammit!!!:rolleyes:

 I purpose this:

Allies-  Godzilla ( 5 perks if you must)
           Rodan
           A-20
           B-26
           B-17
           Mossie
           F4U-C
           M-16
           M-8
           A-4 Skyhawk ( sub for F-86 )

Axis- Mecha-Godzilla (2 perks)
         Mothra
         Batra ( evil Mothra)
         Ghidra
         FW-190D9
         ME 262
         A6M2 ( for Keyapaha)
         Ki-67 ( 87 perks)
         C-47 (sub for Ki-84)
         P-40B (see how you like it)
         Ju87
         Ju88
         N1KJ-2 ( sub for evil alien flying saucers, do we have a skin yet?)


Base capture off
Killshooter on
Fleet ack set at in****ingsaneinstantdeath

All perks should be reset prior to running ( except for mine)

[Toad]

Great thread! Enjoyed this spat immensely!

I think, though, that one thing has been overlooked. The MA will probably be Big Isles or AKD.

So, I'd guess you'll get a LOT of us MA tards in to look it over. If it offers FIGHTS instead of cruising around looking for fights, this is going to be a well-populated diversion.

Never underestimate the ability of Big Isles (and to a lesser extent, AKD) to drive people out of the MA looking for some action.

Anyway, really great thread. It's like reality TV; watching families fight at Thanksgiving.

[Shane]

it's rehearsal for Fox's new show, "When Inbreds Attack!"

[Arlo]

Shane can give you the inside scoop.

[Shane]

Originally posted by Arlo
Shane can give you the inside scoop.

remind me to have the writers give you the script... you're the star after all.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Shane
remind me to have the writers give you the script... you're the star after all.

Script? Oh ... I see ...

The part of Shane the transexual hubwife of Billy Bob will be played by Arlo. Just remember ... my contract is still under negotiation (me and my agent are merely having fun with your tard ass).

[Shane]

Originally posted by Arlo
Script? Oh ... I see ...

The part of Shane the transexual hubwife of Billy Bob will be played by Arlo. Just remember ... my contract is still under negotiation (me and my agent are merely having fun with your tard ass).

your agent is my inbred cousiin, nonce removed. he's also an excellent forger.

i expect the signed contract any day now.

i do *not* want to kow how you're motivating for the role.

[scJazz]

[sLASH...



SCUSE ME i HAVE TO GET BEER OUT OF MY SINUSES NOW