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Offline Letalis

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The Big Wishlist
« on: April 28, 2012, 08:01:26 PM »
After some thought I got together a list of WWII aircraft that fit AH inclusion criteria.  My formula was simple; I tried to objectively grade each type on three criteria:  historical significance, fun factor and probable gameplay change.  Each criteria was rated on a scale of 1 to 5.  History and fun factor scores were multiplied by each other (25 pts possible) and the game change factor was then added on top for a total of 30pts possible.  I then rank-ordered the results and included my estimate of ENY. FYI my favorite on the list is the PV-2 Harpoon :rock


Rank  /  Aircraft  /  Type  /   ENY  /  Notes
1   Westland Lysander   Bomber/Attack   15   Ord Options include veh supps, 1 troop, 500lb bomb, 2x20mm, 4x .303s.  Max spd 210.  Think fast Fi156 with teeth.
2   Ju52   Bomber   30   Carries only 5 troops and slower than the C-47 but can also has modest ord options, carries 3x 7.62 guns to spray map room
3   TU-2   Bomber/Attack   10   Fills important Russian bomber gap with something comparable to the Mossie
4   Yak-3   Fighter   10   Air to air terror
5   Beaufighter   Fighter/Attack   20   Versatile allied answer to the Me110
6   Me323   Bomber   Perked (20 pts)   Giant, heavily armed transport aircraft, 15 veh supps/30 troops
7   PBY-5   Bomber   15   Spawns at ports, carries a little ord, can land/takeoff on water in addition to land
8   P-61   Fighter/Attack   Perked (10 pts)   Yeah…
9   A-26   Attack/Bomber   Perked (15pts)   Yep.
10   Firefly   Fighter/Attack   10   British CV-capable attack craft w 4x20mm mmmms.
11   H8K   Bomber   30   Jap amphib transport, spawns at ports, carries 10 troops
12   He111   Bomber   35   Amazing nobody's asked for this before
13   Pe-2   Attack/Bomber   15   Produced in greater numbers than any other aircraft not represented in AH
14   P-63   Fighter/Attack   10   
15   AR-196   Fighter/Attack   10   Amphibious recon aircraft w 20mm cannons, small bombs.  Spawns at Port
16   Boomerang   Fighter/Attack   30   Poor man's Brewster, but hey the Aussies get representation
17   Hs.129   Attack/Bomber   20   German answer to the IL-2
18   D.520   Fighter   30   4x7.5mm guns w 500rds, 1x20mm w 60rds.  Better than the early P-40s.  "Vive le France!"
19   Ki-43   Fighter/Attack   35   Weak Jap fighter, produced in great numbers
20   PV-2   Attack/Bomber   10   Similar performance to A-20 with 2k more ord, rockets and a tail section that actually lets your tail gunner shoot backwards!
21   Westland Whirlwind   Fighter/Attack   20   Twin-Engine Brit fighter with excellent handling and 4x20mms!
22   IL-4   Bomber   15   If the B-17 and He111 were to have a Russian baby...
23   Ki-45   Attack/Bomber   25   Twin-engine Jap fighter
24   Bre.693   Attack/Bomber   30   Fun little turny French tactical bomber
25   Hs.123   Fighter/Attack   40   Rugged German biplane dive bomber
26   P.11   Fighter   40   Look mom, a Polish hangar queen!
27   Ms.406   Fighter   35   France's answer to the Hurricane MkI, also fought with the Finns
28   Sunderland MkIII   Bomber   Perked (50 pts)   British amphib with massive weapons loadouts. ASV radar makes nearby enemy naval groups appear on minimap
29   G.1   Fighter/Attack   40   The Dutch built fighters? 
30   KS750   Vehicle   40   German motorcycle with sidecar.  Used for fast recon. Options include 1xmachine gun, 1xveh supp (on trailer), 1xtroop 
« Last Edit: April 28, 2012, 08:18:02 PM by Letalis »
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 12:48:14 PM »
oh god... :bhead

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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 01:12:22 PM »
its really bad when i can only pick out 3 aircraft of that list that would even make it in the game
only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 01:41:26 PM »
its really bad when i can only pick out 3 aircraft of that list that would even make it in the game

nonsense pure nonsense every plane there can make it if flown correctly
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 01:54:30 PM »
its really bad when i can only pick out 3 aircraft of that list that would even make it in the game
I don't see any units on the list that are untenable.  The ENY/perk/ideas aren't all there, but the units are all viable.
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 06:12:40 PM »
After some thought I got together a list of WWII aircraft that fit AH inclusion criteria.  My formula was simple; I tried to objectively grade each type on three criteria:  historical significance, fun factor and probable gameplay change.  Each criteria was rated on a scale of 1 to 5.  History and fun factor scores were multiplied by each other (25 pts possible) and the game change factor was then added on top for a total of 30pts possible.  I then rank-ordered the results and included my estimate of ENY. FYI my favorite on the list is the PV-2 Harpoon :rock


Rank  /  Aircraft  /  Type  /   ENY  /  Notes
1   Westland Lysander   Bomber/Attack   15   Ord Options include veh supps, 1 troop, 500lb bomb, 2x20mm, 4x .303s.  Max spd 210.  Think fast Fi156 with teeth.
2   Ju52   Bomber   30   Carries only 5 troops and slower than the C-47 but can also has modest ord options, carries 3x 7.62 guns to spray map room
3   TU-2   Bomber/Attack   10   Fills important Russian bomber gap with something comparable to the Mossie
4   Yak-3   Fighter   10   Air to air terror
5   Beaufighter   Fighter/Attack   20   Versatile allied answer to the Me110
6   Me323   Bomber   Perked (20 pts)   Giant, heavily armed transport aircraft, 15 veh supps/30 troops
7   PBY-5   Bomber   15   Spawns at ports, carries a little ord, can land/takeoff on water in addition to land
8   P-61   Fighter/Attack   Perked (10 pts)   Yeah…
9   A-26   Attack/Bomber   Perked (15pts)   Yep.
10   Firefly   Fighter/Attack   10   British CV-capable attack craft w 4x20mm mmmms.
11   H8K   Bomber   30   Jap amphib transport, spawns at ports, carries 10 troops
12   He111   Bomber   35   Amazing nobody's asked for this before
13   Pe-2   Attack/Bomber   15   Produced in greater numbers than any other aircraft not represented in AH
14   P-63   Fighter/Attack   10   
15   AR-196   Fighter/Attack   10   Amphibious recon aircraft w 20mm cannons, small bombs.  Spawns at Port
16   Boomerang   Fighter/Attack   30   Poor man's Brewster, but hey the Aussies get representation
17   Hs.129   Attack/Bomber   20   German answer to the IL-2
18   D.520   Fighter   30   4x7.5mm guns w 500rds, 1x20mm w 60rds.  Better than the early P-40s.  "Vive le France!"
19   Ki-43   Fighter/Attack   35   Weak Jap fighter, produced in great numbers
20   PV-2   Attack/Bomber   10   Similar performance to A-20 with 2k more ord, rockets and a tail section that actually lets your tail gunner shoot backwards!
21   Westland Whirlwind   Fighter/Attack   20   Twin-Engine Brit fighter with excellent handling and 4x20mms!
22   IL-4   Bomber   15   If the B-17 and He111 were to have a Russian baby...
23   Ki-45   Attack/Bomber   25   Twin-engine Jap fighter
24   Bre.693   Attack/Bomber   30   Fun little turny French tactical bomber
25   Hs.123   Fighter/Attack   40   Rugged German biplane dive bomber
26   P.11   Fighter   40   Look mom, a Polish hangar queen!
27   Ms.406   Fighter   35   France's answer to the Hurricane MkI, also fought with the Finns
28   Sunderland MkIII   Bomber   Perked (50 pts)   British amphib with massive weapons loadouts. ASV radar makes nearby enemy naval groups appear on minimap
29   G.1   Fighter/Attack   40   The Dutch built fighters? 
30   KS750   Vehicle   40   German motorcycle with sidecar.  Used for fast recon. Options include 1xmachine gun, 1xveh supp (on trailer), 1xtroop 
add them all now :headscratch: :rofl

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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 06:28:25 PM »
No Do 217.

Bad list.  :P
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 06:51:16 PM »
I see 4 or 5 I'd like to see starting with D.520, He-111  and P-61.

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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 07:22:02 PM »
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nonsense pure nonsense every plane there can make it if flown correctly

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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 07:54:20 PM »
good list! but the He111 not beeing asked for before? u trollin'? LOL we all would love to see it in the game.

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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 08:45:39 PM »
good list! but the He111 not beeing asked for before? u trollin'?

That was 100% tongue in cheek ;)
If Lusche were to do a pie chart for most requested aircraft I'm betting the He111 would be in the top 5 easy.  Sorry I forgot about the Do217 Lusche, my bad.  :uhoh
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 08:57:13 PM »
perhaps 3 or 4 of them would be used quite frequently the  rest would be hangar queens.


now the motorcycle thingy, that I would use everyday  :pray :pray :pray :pray.



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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 09:39:56 PM »
nonsense pure nonsense every plane there can make it if flown correctly
I don't see any units on the list that are untenable.  The ENY/perk/ideas aren't all there, but the units are all viable.
now boys and girls let us take a look
first thing i see
ME321 hmm dont think that is useful *toss*
H8K why? no subs
Breguet 693 why? again tell me why we need this
Hs.123 yep i bet it would get used almost as much as the sbd dived by 2!!!!!!
ar 196 what would this add?
IL4 waste of resorces we need to Pe2 FIRST
sunderland hmm a lanc that dose not have the one thing that makes a LANC a lanc
p61 hmm mabey but not now.
only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 10:10:18 PM »
now boys and girls let us take a look
first thing i see
ME321 hmm dont think that is useful *toss*
H8K why? no subs
Breguet 693 why? again tell me why we need this
Hs.123 yep i bet it would get used almost as much as the sbd dived by 2!!!!!!
ar 196 what would this add?
IL4 waste of resorces we need to Pe2 FIRST
sunderland hmm a lanc that dose not have the one thing that makes a LANC a lanc
p61 hmm mabey but not now.

You need to do more research on some of those.
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Re: The Big Wishlist
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 10:26:32 PM »
 :rolleyes:
now boys and girls let us take a look
first thing i see
ME321 hmm dont think that is useful *toss*
H8K why? no subs
Breguet 693 why? again tell me why we need this
Hs.123 yep i bet it would get used almost as much as the sbd dived by 2!!!!!!
ar 196 what would this add?
IL4 waste of resorces we need to Pe2 FIRST
sunderland hmm a lanc that dose not have the one thing that makes a LANC a lanc
p61 hmm mabey but not now.

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