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Offline muckmaw

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GDP in at 7.2%...Economy looking up...
« on: October 30, 2003, 08:25:58 AM »
Check the financial news.

GDP numbers came in this morning...

"The futures market gets a solid boost on the heels of a batch of better than expected economic reports. Of particular impact is the advance Q3 GDP, which checked in at 7.2%, well ahead of the consensus of 6.0%. "

Pretty soon, the fed's gonna have to step in to curb inflation!;)

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2003, 08:30:53 AM »
that is good news for this admin and the country - what are you doing reporting such a thing!
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2003, 08:36:30 AM »
You're both wrong.

It's either NOT good news or it's not enough good news because so many other bad things overshadow it completely.

I'll have someone along to explain it to you in here shortly.



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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2003, 08:36:57 AM »
this is terrible!  what are the dems going to do now?!?!?! :lol

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2003, 08:44:23 AM »
It's not the economy, it's the war stupid. :rolleyes:


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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2003, 08:52:17 AM »
HOLY HELL! Check out this article on Yahoo news...


"Rocketed"???

Did they hire a conservative writer?

GDP Growth Strongest Since 1984

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. economy rocketed ahead at its fastest pace in more than 19 years in the third quarter of 2003 as consumers, their wallets fattened by tax cuts, went on a buying spree, an unexpectedly strong government report showed on Thursday.

U.S. gross domestic product surged at a 7.2 percent annual rate in the July-September period, the Commerce Department (news - web sites) said. It was the strongest advance since the first quarter of 1984 and more than double the second quarter's 3.3 percent rate.


The increase handily outstripped consensus forecasts on Wall Street, where most economists had looked for a gain closer to 6 percent.


Consumer spending rose at a hefty 6.6 percent pace as lower tax withholding on paychecks and child tax credit checks put more cash into shoppers' hands. It was the biggest increase in consumer outlays since early 1988.


The report was certain to be heralded by the Bush administration, which has been happy to trumpet the impact its recent tax cuts have had in spurring a sluggish recovery.


Congress passed a $350 billion White House tax plan in the spring that lowered tax-withholding rates in July and pumped out about $13.7 billion dollars in child tax credit checks in July and August.


Most economists expect growth to cool but come in around a solid 4 percent in the final quarter of the year and through 2004. But some have expressed lingering concerns that growth could falter as the tax-cut impact fades, particularly if jobs growth -- which has been sorely lacking -- does not pick up soon.


Business spending, which has been lacking even as the economy climbed out of recession, rose 11.1 percent in the third quarter, the steepest climb since the first quarter of 2000 and the second straight quarterly advance. Cuts in business spending had long been the missing link for a more broad-based recovery as firms showed a reluctance to commit to long-term spending plans.


The third-quarter increase in business investment reflected a sharp pick-up in spending on equipment and software, which moved forward at a 15.4 percent annual pace. In contrast, spending on structures dipped.


A shrinking in the U.S. trade deficit also helped growth, and ensured that sales of U.S.-produced goods and services rose at an even faster pace than GDP (news - web sites) -- a 7.8 percent increase that marked the strongest performance in over 25 years.


Government spending also rose, even though defense spending was flat after giving a big boost to growth in the second quarter.


The report also offered a sign that inflation was starting to move up after a sharp slowdown earlier this year that fueled worry over the possibility of deflation. The price index for consumer spending, excluding volatile food and energy costs, rose at a 1.8 percent annual rate, accelerating from the second quarter's 1.1 percent advance.

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2003, 09:03:35 AM »
Must be something Clinton did :rolleyes: And anyways, its about Bush's lies and sexing up intell  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2003, 09:07:12 AM »
IT'S INTEL!!!! WITH ONE L!!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2003, 09:13:39 AM »
it's time for a REAL tax cut next year.....


wasn't there a tax cut in 84?

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2003, 09:17:17 AM »
With the government spending 87 billion to buy more bullets, bombs, landmines, handgrenades, and body bags...

A new consolidated HLS administration... 1 million dollar bomb sniffers in every international airport....

Sure GDP is garanteed to go up. :lol

The Fed is keeping the prime at 1%....

Don't you guys realize that Bush really is not in charge...
Bush is just a finger puppet... and the finger leeds to one man!

Allen Greenspan... he's the man with the power....

Funny.. how he's been in power for awhile....presidents come and presidents go... Greenspan stays.

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2003, 09:19:15 AM »
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Originally posted by DmdNexus
With the government spending 87 billion to buy more bullets, bombs, landmines, handgrenades, and body bags...

A new consolidated HLS administration... 1 million dollar bomb sniffers in every international airport....

Sure GDP is garanteed to go up. :lol

The Fed is keeping the prime at 1%....

Don't you guys realize that Bush really is not in charge...
Bush is just a finger puppet... and the finger leeds to one man!

Allen Greenspan... he's the man with the power....

Funny.. how he's been in power for awhile....presidents come and presidents go... Greenspan stays.


So if the economy tanks, it will not be Bush's fault?

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2003, 09:21:10 AM »
Oooo...

Nice reversal Rude...

*watches with pointed interest

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2003, 09:24:59 AM »
muckmaw: U.S. gross domestic product surged at a 7.2 percent annual rate...
 Pretty soon, the fed's gonna have to step in to curb inflation!;)


 It sounds self-contradictory. But perhaps you would care to explain what it means?

 What do you mean by "inflation"? General raise in prices?
 If so, how could increase in the amount of goods produced cause a raise in prices? Don't goods drop in prices when they become more plentifull?

 The more we produce, the more and cheaper goods we have for investing in more production, so the firms borrowing resources for expansion would have lower prices and interests to pay, which in turn result in yet more production.

 It would seem the prices will be dropping as well as interest rates, no matter what the fed does. After all, the fed does not prodcue resources for investment - just the money that are used as a medium of exchange.

 So why would you imply that the prices may raise and that the fed would be able to affect investment by tightening the credit?

 miko

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2003, 09:27:26 AM »
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Originally posted by DmdNexus
Don't you guys realize that Bush really is not in charge...
Bush is just a finger puppet... and the finger leeds to one man!

Allen Greenspan... he's the man with the power....

 


Allen Greenspan ordered the invasion of Iraq.

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2003, 09:31:44 AM »
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So if the economy tanks, it will not be Bush's fault?

No it will be Bush's fault... blame can't be traced back to Greenspan...

that's the doctrine of "Plausible Deniability"

I wouldn't be talking about Greenspan having to do anything with Iraq...
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