Best nonperked planes Top 5

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Urchin
 Actually, the only reason anyone flies any plane other than the La-7, Spit IX, P-51D, or N1K2 is because they think they are good and they wouldn't want anyone to assume it is all because of the plane they are flying.  In my opinion of course.

Actually, I ran into you and AGJV44 and Wotan early into my flight sim experience. Somehow you guys managed to convince me that the LW stuff was better than everything else in the game. Being the newb that I was, I naturaly wanted every advantage I could get. Little did I know...........

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by moot
Vulch machines

 

My favorite:D




Yes, I'm reading the thread backwards.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Widewing
Results are as follows.... Rounded up. Subtract 100 feet to obtain net gain. Remember, engines are at idle, so this reflects momentum. Clearly weight is the factor of note, but something else is contributing as the P-47D-30 weighs more than the F6F-5 as does the P-38L too. I suspect this may be related to elevator response or some unknown (to us) factor in the physics models.

A-20G: 1,725 ft (50% fuel)
F6F-5: 1,675 ft (Full tanks)
P-47D-30: 1,650 ft (Full tanks)
F4U-4: 1,600 ft (Full tanks)
P-38L: 1,375 ft (Full tanks)
Tempest: 1,200 ft (Full tanks)
Bf 109G-10: 1,175 ft (Full tanks)
A6M5b: 975 ft (Full tanks)


My regards,

Widewing

Interesting info. I'm curious what the results would be with the same setup, but set auto-speed to 100 mph, and climb with full throttle and WEP, no flap deployment. CT off would be nice, but keeping the settings of each plane the same would be difficult I guess. I've never done comparison tests, so someone more accustomed to the process would be more appropriate I suppose.


Any takers??

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Widewing
Understand that the F6F-5 is not the best in any single category. But, it is very, very good in every category. Good enough to be extremely dangerous in any Co-E, Co-alt engagement regardless of what it encounters.

Another of my favorites, and easily the most under-rated fighter in the game, is the Ki-61.

My regards,

Widewing [/B]

The forgotten favorite, the Macchi C205. It is not the best at anything (other than causing the opponent to relax when it sees that icon), but it is very good at just about everything. Definately not top 5, but deserves an honorable mention.

Kinda funny, but co-alt and co-E, the f6f probably gives me the most trouble when I'm flying that little Italian job.

[-ammo-]

The macchi has some very good attributes, but I just never could get past the cockpit.  It is so restrictive.  I guess it just didnt lend to my type of flying in which I rely heavily on the snapshot.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Nomak
I thought this sounded suspect,  so I looked at the speed chart at netaces.

The f6f is not as fast as a FWa5 @5k.  Over 8k the Hellkitty can match the FW only with the f6 on wep and the FW on regular power.

The f6fs top speed is around 385mph on wep, and that happens below 20k.

The FWa5 reaches 410mph with wep @ around 20k.

This is not intended to be a flame.  But your information is incorrect I believe.  For AH anyway.

HTC has under-modeled the F6F-5. It had considerably better performance than we see in AH. Earlier in this thread, I wrote the following:

"Somewhere in my library I have a test performed by the RAF where they compared a Hellcat Mk.I against a captured Bf 109F. I recall that the 109 had the advantage in sustained climb up to about 20k, where it evened out. The 109 wasn't faster at all. This test also gave the edge to the Hellcat in turning ability. Are you aware that the pitot tube static port on the F6F was incorrectly positioned? At 15k, the F6F-3 was only a few MPH slower than the F4U-1, and this was proven by both the Navy and Grumman who flew the two alongside during comparison tests. The error was a much as 20 mph and was not corrected on the F6F-5. There is also an FAA Naval Air Tactical Note Number 106, which quotes a maximum speed of 409 mph at 21,600 feet for the F6F-5/Hellcat Mk.II. All of this is well documented."

Grumman test numbers were even better with 412 mph being recorded.

My regards,

Widewing

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Widewing Are you aware that the pitot tube static port on the F6F was incorrectly positioned? At 15k, the F6F-3 was only a few MPH slower than the F4U-1, and this was proven by both the Navy and Grumman who flew the two alongside during comparison tests. [/B]

I also have that data. Don't let the F6F fool ya

Gainsie

[frank3]

oh man...please tell me this thread isn't about the positioning of a pitot tube.....

[Nilsen]

1. P47-D30
2. P47-D25
3. P47-D11
4. F4U-1
5. FW190-A5

[Red Tail 444]

I'd put the D-11 at the top if my Jug rides. And the F4U-1 ahead of the jug-by a nose