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Offline miko2d

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« on: November 21, 2003, 02:12:17 PM »
...on 10 most dangerous jobs list. Here is what I found:

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2002. The 10 most dangerous jobs
Occupation Fatalities per 100,000
 
Timber cutters 117.8  
Fishers 71.1  
Pilots and navigators 69.8  
Structural metal workers 58.2  
Drivers-sales workers 37.9  
Roofers 37  
Electrical power installers 32.5  
Farm occupations 28  
Construction laborers 27.7  
Truck drivers 25


 Ooh, the roofer - the guy that protects me from harm at a reasonable and agreed-upon price, risks his life working outdoors, long hours in dangerous conditions, does not use scoundrel politicians to extort outrageous salary and pension benefits from hapeless taxpayers, does not bi#ch about doing me a favor for my money.
 Roofers, the unsung heroes! Must remember to salute them next time I see one.

 miko

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2003, 02:16:54 PM »
I can't beleive,  that Pilot's & Nav's are that high of a death rate

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2003, 02:23:38 PM »
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I can't beleive,  that Pilot's & Nav's are that high of a death rate


This was once a discussed on a different forum, and the coclusion was that bush pilots and their high accident rate raises the death rate of all pilots to a very high level.

Airliner pilot is one of the safest jobs.

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2003, 02:27:51 PM »
They forgot "flight deck crewmen on aircraft carriers".

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2003, 02:31:03 PM »
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Originally posted by miko2d
Ooh, the roofer - the guy that protects me from harm at a reasonable and agreed-upon price, risks his life working outdoors, long hours in dangerous conditions, does not use scoundrel politicians to extort outrageous salary and pension benefits from hapeless taxpayers, does not bi#ch about doing me a favor for my money.
 Roofers, the unsung heroes! Must remember to salute them next time I see one.

 miko


You call a roofer when you need a roof.  You see his service and then you pay him.

You pay a cop whether you realize he's protecting you or not.  You may not always see his service.

Next time you hear a noise in the night, be sure to call the roofers.

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2003, 02:52:29 PM »
Source? Or did you pull that outta yer ass?
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2003, 02:58:50 PM »
gofaster: You call a roofer when you need a roof.  You see his service and then you pay him.

 And I can - and do - buy protection when I need it.

You pay a cop whether you realize he's protecting you or not.

 Or protecting someone else on my dime far away from where I live. Or just harassing someone smoking a joint or not wearing a seatbelt or smoking in a restaurant who pose no threat to me whatsoever.

You may not always see his service.

 I do not see a service provided to me by life insurance - and never will even if it becomes necessary, but I am paying for it.
 I paid $600 to do complete water quality test in my well.
 I am paying for many things that are usefull to me that I do not see every day.

Next time you hear a noise in the night, be sure to call the roofers.

 I have plenty of private security arrangements of various kinds.
 In fact the employment in private security services in US by far exceeds the police many times.

 As for your communist argument that that except government police there is no one there to help me - I have heard it many times from the communists in the Soviet Union.

 Sure - without a state owned collective farm there was nobody to feed me - because the state would not allow anyone to!
 And if there was no state-owned factory to provide me with a job, I would have had no work, because no private businesses were allowed.
 And if there was no government policemen to protect me, I would have been defenseless. Right... :rolleyes:

 miko

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2003, 03:01:17 PM »
That's why Laz has a cell phone by his bed, to call for protection against things that go bump in the night.

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2003, 03:03:16 PM »
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That's why Laz has a cell phone by his bed, to call for protection against things that go bump in the night.


So if everybody packed heat, we wouldn't need a sheriff?

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2003, 03:05:43 PM »
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So if everybody packed heat, we wouldn't need a sheriff?


..we'd be less a Michael Jackson....

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2003, 03:06:01 PM »
Of course we would. Someones got to come write a report with the coroner and wheel out the bad people.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2003, 03:19:56 PM by Creamo »

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2003, 03:06:52 PM »
AKIron: Source? Or did you pull that outta yer ass?

 What? You do not believe me that the data is legitimate to a such degree that you would be personally offensive?

 Come on, I dare you to say that I invented the numbers, you foul-mouthed commie appologist.

 Oh, and don't forget "lazy" and "ignorant" since you could not type "most dangerous jobs" into google. Are you a policeman by any chance? :D

 miko

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2003, 03:15:39 PM »
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Originally posted by miko2d
AKIron: Source? Or did you pull that outta yer ass?

 What? You do not believe me that the data is legitimate to a such degree that you would be personally offensive?

 Come on, I dare you to say that I invented the numbers, you foul-mouthed commie appologist.

 Oh, and don't forget "lazy" and "ignorant" since you could not type "most dangerous jobs" into google. Are you a policeman by any chance? :D

 miko


Of course I don't trust you, why should I? It is customary to credit your source when quoting. For two reasons imo, first, to acknowledge the source and second, to allow us to consider the trustworthiness of the source.

I'm not a policeman but I have much respect for them as you obviously do not. Please, I extend to you my invitation to go back to your homeland where life is so much better.
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2003, 03:40:05 PM »
Miko, from what I see, you have had negative experiences with law enforcement in the past.  And now you're angry because you feel that all law enforcement everywhere is that way.  You've given in to making ridiculous statements such as all cops are too busy busting smokers to do any real police work.  

And now you've gotten to the point that you feel you shouldn't have to pay for any service you don't want.  And this includes what your tax money goes to.  You may not mind it paying for a road to your house, but don't want it paying for a cop's salary.  At the same time you feel is though you have no voice in changing this system, because of the "all or nothing majority vote".  

I guess maybe because of the work I do I just shake my head at you.  Are some cops better at their jobs than others?  Yes, just like accountants, cooks and rocket scientists.  Are there some that are on the take or violent or lazy?  Yep.  But far less than you seem to imagine.  At the same time I see a vast majority who are trying to make difference and punish those who break the law.  Maybe they weren't there to prevent the law being broken in the first place, but they try to catch those who do.

The type of chaos a private police force would create would be pretty impressive.  Do you honestly think that you'd be able to fire them if you were angry with their performance?  Especially once they realize they are the ones in charge?  Agencies like the Pinkertons have proven to be even more corrupt than state law enforcement throughout American history.

I guess I find your whole diatribe against the police to be somewhat naive and even a little petulant.  But, knock yourself out.  I know what the police actually do.  I know that my protection is up to me.  I own guns and have an alarm on my house.  Occasionally they prevent the crime from happening.  Mostly they show up only when called.  I also know the job they do once a crime has been committed.  Perhaps your expectations are skewed.  I'm not sure.

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2003, 03:42:21 PM »
Bouncer at a titty bar needs to be in that list!
you ever tried to break up a cat fight between two pissed off coked uped dancers?
You don't want to be there trust me.:eek: