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Offline bigsky

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« on: December 09, 2003, 06:02:36 PM »
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Offline mrblack

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2003, 06:11:21 PM »
Geez they where lucky to land that thing:(
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2003, 06:45:06 PM »
kudos to the pilot that got it back on the ground.
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Offline Swoop

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2003, 06:46:46 PM »
Landed on engine thrust only?

Wow.


No controls at all.  Damn.  I've brought down B17s in AH with no elevators on engine thrust but never without ailerons as well.  Cannot even imagine the terror involved.


No hydraulics.  That equals no elevators, no ailerons, no rudder and no wheel breaks, right?  

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2003, 06:48:22 PM »
Those pilots are lucky and good to have landed that thing.  

Looks like most of it was fire damage.  How much damage does an SA-7 do by itself (ie it doesn't start a fire)?  Fortunately looks like not enough to bring down an airliner.
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Offline mason22

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2003, 06:59:07 PM »
what's the story behind this?

i'm a little...er way...out of the loop here.
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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2003, 07:02:11 PM »
The biggest thing this proved was the survivability of Pod mounted Jet engined A/C versus internal arrangement...
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2003, 07:14:27 PM »
Did you guys ever see the pic of an Israeli F-15 which landed missing the entire left wing ?

I'll have to look it up again, it was amazing.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2003, 07:21:50 PM »
While that article seems reliable there has been a lot of speculation about the actual events in some of the professional pilots forums.

As a non professional but somewhat in the know person I would say that the plane didn't suffer a total hydraulic failure.

The plane in question(A300) has three independent hydraulic systems and it uses ailerons and spoilers(speedbrakes) for roll control. If the damage is restricted to the area shown in the pictures, then only the aileron actuators were damaged and that would propabaly have breached 2 of the 3 hydraulic systems. However those systems have fuses and even if they fail there's the third system which operates spoilers differentially for roll control and elevator.

So my guess is that they still had some roll and elevator control left but no flaps or wheelbrakes. If they indeed had a total hydraulic failure then the flightcrew did the most outstanding feat in landing that plane with that little damage, using only engine thrust and elevator trim for control.

Anyway, here we can see why those "bus drivers" are paid so well and have earned it once again.
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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2003, 09:55:12 PM »
Increadable.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2003, 10:06:47 PM »
Lucky crew, engineers at Airbus should be proud.  I know when that Airbus made the dead stick landing in Canada our RAT engineers at Sundstrand (who made the ram air turbine which saved everybody's life) had a big party.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2003, 11:07:00 PM »
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Lucky crew, engineers at Airbus should be proud. I know when that Airbus made the dead stick landing in Canada our RAT engineers at Sundstrand (who made the ram air turbine which saved everybody's life) had a big party.


You mean the Canucks that set the A300 down in the Azores?

either way, nice bit of flying on both counts!
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2003, 11:12:04 PM »
You're correct, I was thinking of the 1983 incident.
And IIRC the 2001 incident was caused by crew and maintenance errors, so I'd say "nice engineering" rather than "nice flying".  :)
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2003, 11:15:51 PM »
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Did you guys ever see the pic of an Israeli F-15 which landed missing the entire left wing ?

I'll have to look it up again, it was amazing.


whoa, i'd like to see that!  find it please =]
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2003, 01:12:07 AM »
rode an airbus 330 going back from holiday 2 years ago. 30mins into the flight and the captain announced that we were to divert and land at a nearby airport.  the plane was acting sluggish and the attendants were giving us fake smiles and this guy in first class was shaking while reading his newspaper. we were getting anxious but we made it down in one piece. my cousin who works in that airport picked us up and told us we lost an engine midflight:eek:

that was one interesting experience
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