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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2003, 10:14:12 AM »
unless you were drafted, why did you join the service? for the gi bill? free school?

like a fireman complaining about having to put out a fire he did not agree with the cause of ..
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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2003, 10:17:29 AM »
Just a point here. Germany DID bring war to the shore of the US as did Japan. There are more than a couple U-boats lying just off shore on the Atlantic side of the US. They were very active in attacking US flagged shipping.

Japan also attemted to bomb the US mainland with their experimental baloon bombers via the jetstream. This is far after Pearl Harbor of course but they did try.
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2003, 10:18:16 AM »
we are in this war for honor? for the people of Iraq? and the fact that the money (our tax dollars) is going into the pockets of GW's friends is purely coincidental I'm sure, a fluke, no way in hell it could have been the point of this from the begining.
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same old crap.....you just blew your cover.  your a tool
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2003, 10:20:20 AM »
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same old crap.....you just blew your cover.  your a tool


yeager, why are we there then???
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2003, 10:29:51 AM »
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yeager, why are we there then???


how about:

making the world a safer place

instill democracy & freedom into the arse backwards middle east

prevent/discourage another 9/11

to show the world we won't take it anymore

and if that helps our economy - I ain't gonna whine about it...
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2003, 10:31:53 AM »
I've got no cover. I say whats on my mind and hide nothing.

you however aparently keep your thoughts secret or don't have an independent thought, as you don't really state any beliefs of your own.  just say others are wrong without any real input as to how you see anything.

if you see things differently than me, great.  speak your mind.  I love to hear differing opinions, consider other points of view.  for me it's a win-win situation, either I learn something new or reach some understanding with someone I didn't see eye-to-eye with before.  either way I see the free exchange of opinions as a good thing.

but your petty little coments without any point are getting tired, and I'm done with you until you find a thought of your own.
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2003, 10:35:57 AM »
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how about :

making the world a safer place

instill democracy & freedom into the arse backwards middle east

prevent/discourage another 9/11

to show the world we won't take it anymore  


safer for who? not for the hundreds we've lost over there this year.

it's there country let them instill the gov't they want, we should work on getting some control over our own.

how many iraqi's participated in the 9/11 attacks? and how many suadi 'allies'

and it doesn't help our economy,  the gov't is in deficit spending, they are borrowing money from us to pay the contractors.  we aren'tgaining we are paying for the war.
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2003, 10:43:51 AM »
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how about:

making the world a safer place

instill democracy & freedom into the arse backwards middle east

prevent/discourage another 9/11

to show the world we won't take it anymore

and if that helps our economy - I ain't gonna whine about it...


lol very nobel indeed!

Making the would a safer place?? Think about that statment.. If possible, try to think outside your own world and place yourself in the shoes of 'mr. terrorist'.  <----Mr. t

Mr. t thinks america is after all things non-american and is activly trying to destroy Islamic ideas around the world..  
America declares war and invades Iraqi. In the process Islamic men, women, and children are killed. Lets say Mr. t's islamic woman was killed in a raid where american's are looking for Islamic supporters..  
Is that going to make Mr. t, a) more happy  b) less happy c)want to kill more americans?

Everything Mr. t beleives has come true for him....... If his life and experiences equal truth in his eyes, will he change?

Iraqi had no part in 9/11.....

Take what anymore? They thought before that we would take it?

If you were a dead soldier or dead soldier's family would the difference in the short term economy really mean that much to you?

Apathy apathy apathy.... O the horror
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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2003, 11:05:10 AM »
and I'm done with you until you find a thought of your own.
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2003, 11:26:35 AM »
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aside from "War", please tell me one venture which one side does not gain and another lose?


Just about every financial transaction.  I exchange wealth for a product that a company makes more efficiently than I could.  Company makes a profit, I get a product cheaper than if I made it myself.
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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2003, 12:44:26 PM »
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Just about every financial transaction.  I exchange wealth for a product that a company makes more efficiently than I could.  Company makes a profit, I get a product cheaper than if I made it myself.


who makes the product for the company? always fair labor?
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« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2003, 12:48:28 PM »
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I've heard that claimed a lot.  but it's hard to explain how the spanish/american war was sparked by the blowing up of the Maine in havana if we where so isolated.
How far is Havana from the US?  How far is it from Spain?  I think isolationist isn't necessarily what you're defining it to be.

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« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2003, 12:59:06 PM »
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one more thing that I'm not sure was mentioned in his book.  he has 2 CMH's.



ummm...it's NOT a CMH.....official name is Medal of Honor, not Congressional Medal of Honor
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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2003, 01:15:19 PM »
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So when someone formally declares war on you, what should the response be? Sounds to me like a declaration of war is the direct threat that the Major-General had in mind.


Prior to US involvement Japan made an attack on US shores Germany didn't. I'd call an attack on NYC and DC, with over 3000 dead, an attack on our shores. Wouldn't you?
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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2003, 01:24:56 PM »
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Prior to US involvement Japan made an attack on US shores Germany didn't. I'd call an attack on NYC and DC, with over 3000 dead, an attack on our shores. Wouldn't you?


yes I would, an attack who's memebers where primarily saudis,  so why are we wasing time and money on iraq and not dealing with the saudi contribution to 9/11?

could it be that we don't want to upset an already lucrative aliance with the saudis?
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