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Offline DA98

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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2003, 01:28:41 PM »
Capt., can you email me the .doc at xavi_mm@teleline.es  please? Thanks!

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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2003, 01:40:40 PM »
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yes I would, an attack who's memebers where primarily saudis,  so why are we wasing time and money on iraq and not dealing with the saudi contribution to 9/11?

could it be that we don't want to upset an already lucrative aliance with the saudis?


I think we'll eventually get around to the Saudis, one way or another. I don't claim to be privy to all the info our government has and so am content to not second guess just yet.
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2003, 01:44:13 PM »
but if this is about 9/11 then shouldn't we make those involved a priority.

this sort of logic would make about as much sense as if we'd attacked mexico in retaliation for pearl harbor

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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2003, 01:56:52 PM »
the wheels on the bus go round and round...

round and round.....

round and round....

the wheels on the......

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« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2003, 02:47:48 PM »
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who makes the product for the company? always fair labor?


No not necessarily in every case, but in some.  And you asked for just one example.

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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2003, 02:54:23 PM »
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the wheels on the bus go round and round...

round and round.....

round and round....

the wheels on the......

:eek:


Nah Yeager, sometimes you get a flat, or the nuts get loose, then it all gets jacked up and someone finally decides to get the nuts in one place, blows some air at it and, just maybe, the wheel will go around again,..until the next flat.
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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2003, 03:07:14 PM »
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but if this is about 9/11 then shouldn't we make those involved a priority.

this sort of logic would make about as much sense as if we'd attacked mexico in retaliation for pearl harbor


Are you sayind the Saudi government was behind the attack on 9/11? If you have evidence please send it to the white house asap.
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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2003, 04:18:18 PM »
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Are you sayind the Saudi government was behind the attack on 9/11? If you have evidence please send it to the white house asap.


Wait a minute... you were the one who was comparing the Germany war declaration with Sept 11th - i.e. the act of a State with that of a delocalised organisation. In light of your above remarks your previous comparison is left wanting.

BTW, didn't a few pages of some recent report get the marker pen treatment to spare our Saudi friend's blushes?

Face it, the Saudi Arabia is a corrupt despotic regime and breeding ground for the terrorism that planned and funded the Sept. 11th attacks, providing virtually all the man-power to do it. Tell me again, how many Iraqis were involved?
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« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2003, 04:23:03 PM »
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Wait a minute... you were the one who was comparing the Germany war declaration with Sept 11th - i.e. the act of a State with that of a delocalised organisation. In light of your above remarks your previous comparison is left wanting.

BTW, didn't a few pages of some recent report get the marker pen treatment to spare our Saudi friend's blushes?

Face it, the Saudi Arabia is a corrupt despotic regime and breeding ground for the terrorism that planned and funded the Sept. 11th attacks, providing virtually all the man-power to do it. Tell me again, how many Iraqis were involved?


I compared Germany's war declaration with 9/11? No, I compared Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor with 9/11.

Look, I'll be plain spoken here. I think we need to root out terrorism in ALL of the middle east. Even if it means overturning every middle eastern government. Afghanistan was a great place to start and Iraq a good second. Syria will make a nice third.
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« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2003, 04:29:45 PM »
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I compared Germany's war declaration with 9/11? No, I compared Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor with 9/11.


Japan or Germany, both were national States.

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Look, I'll be plain spoken here. I think we need to root out terrorism in ALL of the middle east. Even if it means overturning every middle eastern government. Afghanistan was a great place to start and Iraq a good second. Syria will make a nice third.


And you overlook Saudi Arabia in your analysis? Is that because Bush has done the same or do you have genuine reasons?

BTW, why isn't Yemen near the top of that list? It is the number one holiday destination for stressed out extremist nutcases.
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« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2003, 04:34:21 PM »
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Japan or Germany, both were national States.



And you overlook Saudi Arabia in your analysis? Is that because Bush has done the same or do you have genuine reasons?

BTW, why isn't Yemen near the top of that list? It is the number one holiday destination for stressed out extremist nutcases.


Dowding, I may seem like an important guy to you but I'm really not. I don't make US policy. Heck, I can't even get the AKs to stop porking your fuel. ;)

So long as we don't stop in the middle east 'till we're done I'll be satisfied.
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« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2003, 05:52:17 PM »
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

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« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2003, 11:34:10 AM »
AK's are porking my fuel? No wonder I'm paying such high prices at the pumps. ;)
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« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2003, 10:08:27 PM »
when we went after the taliban in afganistan you didn't hear many complain, we had been attacked and there where direct links, we responded and the overwelming majority did and still do suport bush's decision to respond.

the compaints are on the iraqi invasion, it's taking rescorses away from legitamate targets and is costing american and allied lives in something that will gain the average american nothing.  the only americans to gain in this are those who are in the war racket.

as far as what Iraqis may gain.  frankly I don't care, let them live under whatever kind of gov't the can tolorate.  but my gov't has a responsability to me and the other americans who elected them.  if it is looking out for the best interest of Iraqis and a few rich bussiness men at the cost of american soldiers and a national debt that will be resting on the shoulders of the american tax payer, it's not doing it's job, and has aperantly forgot who the gov't is suposed to work for.

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« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2003, 11:12:35 PM »
Wow.

Some of you people are very adroit in the use of class warfare.  I should have worn my galoshes.

The evil industrialists control the U.S. government and get it to declare war so they can make obscene profits.  What a load of horsedung, replete with righteous posturing and moral indignation.  If we follow this line of reasoning to its end, we would be led to believe that the Kennedy's are among the most evil of all Americans, manipulating the government through their diplomatic and governmental positions, buying presidential elections, and that sort of thing.

Get a grip willya!?

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