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SeaWulfe

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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2001, 10:33:00 AM »
 
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Ah yeah Seawulfe. You have a point. A good pilot in a Sopwith Camel can beat a rookie in an F-18. Keep dreaming big boy.

A 110MPH plane up against a 1000+ MPH jet. Missles don't lock on to wooden planes. And you ain't gonna get a guns solution at that speed difference. It'd be a draw, big boy.
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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2001, 10:37:00 AM »
You should, but in offline your default is probably the 'ndisles' map. In the clipboard does it look like a bunch of islands? If so then I can see why it would crash, the main arena is the 'lake uterus' map (not sure of the real file name)


OK boys, can we let it go now? And try to get him to playback film?

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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2001, 10:37:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by SeaWulfe:
Yeah.. but I don't like cocky newbies.
So please a bit of recognition for my part as remember I'm only a CFS veteran.
<snicker>
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I'm a terrible, horrible newbie!  That make you feel better SW?    I made so many dumb mistakes last night, that I wanted to smack myself.  Only good thing I did was shoot down a B17 at high alt, get my radiator shot up, and glide down from 20K ft and actually landed on the runway.  That ONE little sortie made up for all the ineptness I displayed prior in the evening.

Oh, guess how long it took my to get my first kill in AH?  1 minute after engaging my first enemy (I think it was 5 minutes after upping for the first time in the MA.)  Was flying a DHog and got on a LA7's 6.  Followed him best I could, and managed to get lead in him as we were diving.  I think I was shot down 10 times after that before getting my next kill.  First kill wasn't anything but beginner's luck for me.  
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RearGunner

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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2001, 10:39:00 AM »
Thanks Hazed.   That's what I am planning on doing. I'll get a feel for a plane before I move on.

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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2001, 10:40:00 AM »
what don't u get about playing films RG?
took me longer than that to get my 1st kill in AH <S> and I had played FA for a while. CFS and CFS2 are good box sims if you like eye candy but don't compare to the FM in AH.

lose the attitude and you'll get further on this board and in this game

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« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2001, 10:41:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by RearGunner:
might be a few things which I missed ot added by mistake my adrenaline is still pumping.  


Oh dear, any more of this and Aces High will have you by the short and curlies and never let you go =)

 
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If I could get the film thing to work I could see it again properly

Use ALT-R to turn recording on or off. When recording you'll see a little red R in the top left.

Afterwards, to view the film quit Aces HIgh and restart it (it film viewer is still a bit buggy and is most stable when you go striaght into it) and just select the 'Film' button rather than the 'online' one. It should be fairly obvious from there =)




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SeaWulfe

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« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2001, 10:42:00 AM »
Actually Nifty, newbies are cool... as long as they don't start here their first day stating they are the god of realism and flight sims because they have completed *ahem* an offline campaign. I've done that so many times... eh whatever.

Anyways, if a newbie says to me "Man I suck.. I just don't understand this" or just says "Man how do you do this?" I'll gladly take him to the TA and teach him some ACM moves and how to properly track a bogey with the snap view system.

I just don't like newbies that think they are "the best"... no two flight games are alike in respects to the FM.. you always have room to learn. Anyone will tell you that... well except this feller.
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RearGunner

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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2001, 10:44:00 AM »
Yeah Acid, it's a bunch of islands. Do I have to change the files?

SeaWulfe. lol. a draw, eh? No guns on the F18? Also, missiles don't lock on elements. Wood, metal, glass makes no difference. It usually locks on to a heat source. i.e the engine.

SeaWulfe

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« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2001, 10:47:00 AM »
"A 110MPH plane up against a 1000+ MPH jet. Missles don't lock on to wooden planes. And you ain't gonna get a guns solution at that speed difference. It'd be a draw, big boy."

Maybe you'll get a missle lock, but you have any idea how many Gs it needs to pull to follow a camel through a turn? It just isn't going to work, and you'll need AIM54cs just to get a lock onto him. The closure speeds are entirely too fast.

Same with the guns, you are going way too fast. You slow down, you enter the Camel's territory until you fire your afterburners and get the hell outta dodge. You ain't turning with no Camel.

There was a game years back by Microprose.. "Fighter Duel" where you COULD fly jets against Camels.

It was proven there, the real world isn't going to be much different.
-SW




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RearGunner

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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2001, 10:50:00 AM »
Why should I need you to teach me flight manouvers when I probably know as much as you? What's so hard about it? I've had a lot of practice. I never said I was a god at flight sims, but I'm not exactly a newbie.

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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2001, 10:52:00 AM »
RearGunner,

You have a fast way on seeing how differently 2 planes can behaviour.

Take your Spitfire V. Make it 250 kts. Bank hard 90 degrees left. Pull. Hard, nearing blackout. 180 degrees U-turn. Write down end speed.

Now take FW 190 A8. Make it 250 kts. Bank hard 90 degrees left....hey, I said 90, not 450 degrees  . ....Pull. Hard. 180 degrees U-turn. If you are still on contlolled flying, write down end speed.

Quite a difference, I bet.

One of the best advices given here is hazed's. Find a wingman or, even better, find a squad. Will make learning not so hard, and definitely more fun.

Cheers,

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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2001, 10:53:00 AM »
HAHA Seawulfe. I just noticed you are nuts. Go to the Pentagon and tell em to replace the F18's with Sopwiths. LOL. God that's funny.  

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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2001, 10:56:00 AM »
Thanks Pepe, I'll try it. Hey I just noticed I have about 10 other films recorded and I never noticed. I wonder what's on em. hehe. Gonna try and get the damn thing to work.

SeaWulfe

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« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2001, 11:00:00 AM »
 
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HAHA Seawulfe. I just noticed you are nuts. Go to the Pentagon and tell em to replace the F18's with Sopwiths. LOL. God that's funny.    

You were the one telling me a new pilot in a F16 or F18 could beat an expert in his Camel. I'm telling you it would be a draw. You are an idiot if you think otherwise.

The F18 does a multiple of things fast, and carries a lot of ordinance. But against an extremely slow moving target it does no good.. especially one that can turn 360degrees in about 100ft.

Apparently I know a lot more than you about ACM if I think that the F18 vs Camel would be a draw... because it would be. Don't blame me you can't understand it. Maybe give you a few years to think about it. By your logic, a Me262 would have a field day with piston engined fighters...... well we know how that one turned out.
-SW

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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2001, 11:23:00 AM »
hehe, Camels vs F/A 18s???  hmm, after you set that up, please set up a matchup of Pedro Martinez (or Randy Johnson) against Babe Ruth.  that's something I'd REALLY like to see!

As for all your comments RG, nothing in a box game, and I mean NOTHING will ever beat flying with a squad in an online game.  Not to me, and not to just about anyone else on these boards.  You could give me the perfect FM and AI in a boxed offline game (if it ever could exist) and I'd still rather play right here in AH with a squad.  I had flown with individual people in AH and it was fun, but it didn't even come close to how much fun flying with the Mongrels has been the past few days.  Whether it be on Darling's wing in a P51 using Roger Wilco or MataHari's wing in Spits just using text to communicate, it's absolutely the most fun I've had playing any flight sim.

I have two favorite moments so far flying AH.  The first was the P51 with Darling.  I had a Niki on my 6, and Darling said he was coming over RW.  I saw him in my view, and said I was gonna bring the Niki back the other way.  He rogered my move, I called out my turn, and it pulled the niki into a perfect firing solution for Darling.  Working as a team with another human and being able to verbally say things instead of typing them out (or hitting a macro key to tell an AI wingie what to do) is just well, a light year's difference in fun!

The next moment was the first time I got to fly with MataHari in spits.  He was a bit away from the field engaged in a furball.  He called out that he was in trouble, and I let him now I was on the way.  I got there and he was engaged with a spit and a F6 (I think).  I dropped on the Spit's 6 (was the more immediate threat to Mata) and put some lead in him, making him break.  I stayed with Mata, and someone else who showed up got the spit, I only got an assist.  Mata needed to RTB, so I stayed with him instead of going back for the Hellkitty or moving to the bigger furball just a bit away.  

There is no possible way I could ever get that feeling of helping someone from a boxed offline game.  I've played other boxed sims and made an effort to keep wingman alive, and it never came close to the feeling of helping Mata out (or Blutic during the Check 6 this past week.)  Hearing "Thx Nifty!" over the squad channel or the country/room channel is the best thing for me in AH.  

RG, give this game a chance and fly with a squad.  You'll never want to go back to boxed sims if you find it fun, trust me.  If you can't afford the $30, I can understand that, but if you can, you'll find it's worth it for the comraderie and joy flying with other people gives you.  (Not to mention flying AGAINST other humans!!!)
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