Author Topic: AH2 vs. Radeons (Read 3412 times)

Citabria · « **Reply #30 on:** December 20, 2003, 03:05:32 PM »

I have a new 3.2 ghz w 9800xt 256mb 1gig ram and raid configured hard drives.

ah1 screams at 170fps w vert sync off and maintaisn steady 85fps dor 85hz with it on with max settings full aa and af at my favorite resolution of 1280x1024. my test for ah1 maxsettings is a completely destroyed fuel factory with a brick of smoke. it chugs through that mess at an easy 20fps and never below 60fps anywhere else.

i play il2 maxed out on graphics and its glass any other game runs easy with the 9800xt.

ah2 does not. its choppy even with fps in the 40s and does not run smooth at all.

there must be some problem still w 256mb vid cards or ati cards and ah2 because it is seriously is awful. and if i have to choose between ah2 and ah1 right now ah1 is far superior in terms of terrain graphics and framerates. I look at festerMA and ah2 and it looks so awful. I look at it in ah1 and it looks amazing. that awful clutter may be great flying at 50 feet or in a gv but its all so mucky and square and plain. it looks like a bad day in england after it just rained for a few days and the fogs still around in a way.

F4i · « **Reply #31 on:** December 20, 2003, 04:10:20 PM »

I don't mean this comment to sound rude, but - for a while now - I've been thinking that Hitech might do well to keep AH1 available instead of roll EVERYONE over to AH2. As things are, right now, I'd be happy just staying in AH1.

Give it time, though. "It's still beta," I have to remind myself.

TBolt

Monty405 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 20, 2003, 05:13:25 PM »

Compareing the frame rate in a computer game to a television program isnt quite accurate. Television film uses frames which uses blurred outlines so each frame in seqence appears to transist more smoothly. (put a movie on pause and see yourself it is not crystall clear, as opposed to a game screenshot) so slightly more frames are required for games to flow nicly to our eyes.

im not quite sure what the technique which film uses is named as it evades me atm

mrblack · « **Reply #33 on:** December 20, 2003, 07:30:34 PM »

Just upgrade and play it!
I am running a p4 2.4 OC to 3.0 with a ATI 9800pro and I get 75 FPS
No problems upgrade you cheap bastadess

Dingbat · « **Reply #34 on:** December 21, 2003, 10:30:33 AM »

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Originally posted by F4i
Yea, I have the same problem with the invisible buildings & other ground objects. You're not alone.

I have no idea whether HTC is addressing the problem or not. Maybe they'll post with some useful input.

In the meantime, hang in there...it's only beta.

TBolt

Try this, there is a setting under compatability (in the ATI control panel) called "Alternating Pixels" or something like that... Give it a shot...

Citabria · « **Reply #35 on:** December 21, 2003, 10:36:56 AM »

upgrade?

3.2ghz p4
Asus P4C800-E DELUXE motherboard
ati radeon9800xt video card
1gb corsair ram
2 120gb hard drives in RAID configuration
soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

thats what I'm using now so upgrading past that is dependant on the industry releasing more advanced systems.

I also have to remind myself that ah2 is beta still. because to me ah2 flight models are god awful, the terrain looks like a dark and dimsquare nightmare with broccoli scattered all over. a top end system cant even runthe game with max settings and get above 20fps at 1280x1024.

I've played ah a long time and I expect to be able to keep playing it at 1280x1024.

I keep saying it over and over, HTC needs to catch up to il2FB in terms of sky graphics and flight modeling gunnery and damage modeling. AH1 has clearly fallen behind and ah2 beta seems to be even behind ah1 in its current state.

ah2 beta sky looks worse than ah1 sky. thats hard to do to make that look worse.

they spending all this time on clutter they not even giving any attention to improving the sky or the atmosphere graphics.

F4i · « **Reply #36 on:** December 21, 2003, 11:09:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
they spending all this time on clutter they not even giving any attention to improving the sky or the atmosphere graphics.

clutter that a lot of us are going to have to turn off, anyway.

what - besides contrails - would you expect them to add to AH2? and, for what purpose?

the flight model isn't awful. in fact, the "feeling of motion" is actually much better in the newer planes than in AH1. with some tweaking, i think the flight model will be fun...it'll definitely be harder to fly if you're a noob.

TBolt

214thCavalier · « **Reply #37 on:** December 21, 2003, 12:02:55 PM »

Cit try these settings in video8 file

0.3,LOD
0.3,ObjSize

Or just set the sliders both under the L in detail. Not quite max but it will get you 50fps.

Your in danger of starting to rant Cit because you cant run it as fast as you want at full settings, however it seems apparent that the Radeons are definitely not up to speed with AH2, hell even GF4 TI4200 seems to be nearly on par with 9800 Rads.

I agree the terrain is very dark and as somebody already mentioned looks like a heavily overcast day, but without the cloud cover.

As for the current FM i cant see the problem keeping in mind its still beta.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #38 on:** December 21, 2003, 03:54:39 PM »

Monty405 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 21, 2003, 04:00:39 PM »

DOLTS

save · « **Reply #40 on:** December 22, 2003, 03:14:08 AM »

Hi guys.

I downloading new beta as I post here.

I recognize many of your problems from
WB3 early days - before we got the hang of all setting you had to tweak converting from wb2 to wb3.

many of them had to do with Vsync on
(most cases works better with OFF)

IF vehicle and planes shadows can be turned off you probably can triple your fps.
(what is the case in WB3 at least)
also tuning down antialiasing to 2X make things go smoother.

Since you also upgraded to better hardware to be able to play AH2
I suggest you try new WB3 out for reference ( as I do with every AH release)

WB price is finally en par with AH.

~~merry Xmas~~

AmRaaM · « **Reply #41 on:** December 24, 2003, 07:18:29 AM »

running in mid 60s with my 2.0 p4 / 1gig ram / 9700 tweaked (voltage bridged)318/300mem / xpPro

only time my fps die is the switch from the tower to the cockpit it drops to 6fps. during transition.

other then that it stays in the 44-76fps range.

ghostdancer · « **Reply #42 on:** December 27, 2003, 07:19:02 AM »

Well I got enough money for Xmas to get a new video card. Right now I am running a Hercules II (GeForce 2) which won't run AH2.

I was thinking about getting the Radeon 9600XT but you guys are saying there are definite problems with AH2 and that card. Have they been ironed out or identified how to fix yet or should I look at other cards?