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Offline BBGunn

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190A-4, a nightmare ?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 1999, 07:48:00 PM »
Interesting how different texts list different numbers- mine says that 20,051 of all 190 models and variants were built.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 1999, 04:07:00 PM »
Keep in mind that the BMW records show that only about 13000 801 engines were built.  That engine powered the Fw 190A, F, G, as well as some twin-engined bomber types.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 1999, 04:08:00 PM »
P.S.  To compare Fw 190A-4 to the A-8 in AH, add 1000 fpm and 20mph.
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 1999, 05:03:00 AM »
Funked: I think that should be more, remember that 190a8 in AH flies only 390mph as maximum speed, when I've read from many sources that it did fly over 400mph (400-405mph)
and earlier planes like A-4 or was it A-5, flew like 420-425mph as maximum speed.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 1999, 09:14:00 AM »
The AFDU ran tests using a Fw190A-3(BMW 801 at 2700rpm and 1.42ata) vs Spitfire Mk IX (Merlin 61 at 3000rpm and 1.00ata(15lbs boost)) with the following results...

Speed:
2000ft: Fw190A 7-8mph faster
5000ft: Same speed
8000ft: Spitfire 8mph faster
15000ft: Spitfire 5mph faster
18000ft: Fw190A 3mph faster
21000ft: Same speed
25000ft: Spitfire 5-7mph faster

Climb:
Little difference in climb up to 23000ft, when the Spitfire becomes superior; the performance gap widening rapidly.

Acceleration, zoom climb, dive:
The Fw190A pulls away.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 1999, 12:23:00 PM »
Juzz - That A-3 had a derated engine and a spark plug problem.
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 1999, 12:45:00 PM »
The story on how they got that FW190A-3 is fairly amusing. 4 Spitfires were scrambled to intercept it. 2 crashed on takeoff, 1 returned with a faulty radio and the last one was shot down by it! Then the FW later appears barrel-rolling over a RAF airfield, extends the landing gear while inverted and lands after a steep turn. A RAF officer grabbed a Very pistol and jumped on the wing of the FW190A-3 to "capture" it.

Where does this engine info come from? Are those performance figures "fudged" to compensate for that then?
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190A-4, a nightmare ?
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 1999, 12:56:00 PM »
... and the spitfire that 190A3 was pitted against was F model which was by far the worst prefermer of all Mk. 9's ever made.

Then again, F is what we have in WB and AH.
Otherwise some 109 or 190 drivers would have heart attacks...  


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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 1999, 03:46:00 PM »
How come everyone keeps saying it is the a '44 version of the spitfire 9. Why don't we have a '44 version of the 9 (or even the 14   )

Ah well i suppose British engineering was just 2 years ahead of all that german and american junk  
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