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Offline Furball

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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2004, 01:29:02 PM »
First Aircraft to go over 400mph was designed by a certain mr. R J Mitchell...





Supermarine S6B

Length: 28ft 10in (8.89m)
Span: 30ft 0in (9.14m)
Engine: Rolls-Royce 'R' of 2,300hp
Speed: 407.5mph (655.67km/h)
Won 1931 contest and went on to set world speed record of 407.5mph becoming first aircraft to exceed 400mph (643.6km/h)


And a floatplane no less...
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Offline HoHun

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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2004, 01:53:03 PM »
Hi Raptor,

>USAAF plane to land in Japan after that country had surrendered

Pilot Clay Tice! :-)

>-plane to make extensive use of stainless steel

Certainly not :-)

The Junkers J-1 built in 1915 was an all-metal cantilever-wing monoplane fighter constructed (almost completely) from steel. Unlike Junkers' later light-alloy designs, it had a smooth skin. (It also was the first fighter aircraft to employ a special radiatior shape to regain thrust from the coolant energy.)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)
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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2004, 05:03:55 PM »
I think the issue was which was the first combat production fighter had an off the production line top speed of 400MPH.
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Offline Furball

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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2004, 05:11:26 PM »
It was the first american 400mph fighter.  Not first 400mph fighter.

Spit IX even entered service before it http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100989&highlight=service+dates+revisited
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Offline GScholz

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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2004, 05:14:43 PM »
First US production fighter? Prolly the F4U. Still the Krauts beat you to it (perhaps the Brits too).

Furball, those Supermarine trophy planes are gorgeous.
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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2004, 05:17:12 PM »
Yup, notice no radiators.   The cooling system is in those veins down the sides.  How they even got a floatplane in 1931 past 400mph is incredible
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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2004, 05:18:32 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2004, 05:21:33 PM »
Thanks! :)

I bet the pilot was scared ****less when he looked at the speed gauge. :D
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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2004, 05:22:39 PM »
lol yup, and the fact that he couldnt even see forwards :D
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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2004, 09:06:25 PM »
As to float planes...

The world record for speed (internal combustion engine)was set at 440.683 mph by Warrant Officer Agrllo on 23 October 1934. That record still stands.

MACCHI M.C.72

As to the P-38 vs F4U 400mph firet 400+mph U.S.A. aircraft thing,

Maximum speed
XP-38  was 413 mph, all flights prior to crash in February 1939.
YP-38, the Army received its first YP-38 for service trials in March 1940, was 405 mph at 10,000 feet.

Widewing, help! I just can't find the the first 400+ date for the P-38.
The F4U was the first Navy 400+ aircraft, not the first U.S 400+ aircraft.
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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2004, 03:37:17 AM »
FW 190 A5 cuz it's always been my favorite..well, maybe when I was a kid I liked Spitfires because of their nice shape, but then the almost brutal looking 190's began to attract me more. I usually fly the A5 with only the inboard 20mm's loaded. A8 feels too heavy and I tend to get both F and A8 into flat spins which I have been unable to recover.

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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2004, 04:01:11 AM »
I mostly fly the 190A8 or the P-38L.

When I fly the A8, I load 100% fuel and fly very stealthy missions. Most of my shoot downs never see me. When low on fuel I can tango with some of the bigger birds. take more risks. A5 when I cant plan a decent hunt mission. A8 makes the bad guys to BOOM!

P-38L, bout 50% fuel with tanks.. I'll dogfight in the P-38L though.

I always go long range when huntin, thats where all the unsuspecting cons are. My missions are long.

;)

On RTB low on fuel, I've reversed many a hungry predators and sent them into the ocean. Sorry didnt mean to brag.

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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2004, 04:22:01 AM »
Hey,GScholz, the Bf 109R has very little in common with the 109, and redesignating the name from 209 to 109R was a propoganda move.
However, a boosted up Spit I reached 408 mph, and that was a Spit out of the Production line :D
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« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2004, 08:11:05 AM »
Spitfire XIV everytime,

fast, manuverable and lots and lots of fire power to wear down the enemy's armour quicker with less shots fired
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« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2004, 11:10:30 AM »
in the MA it's spit 9 - coz it's the only plane an average pilot like me can consistantly beat the LA hordes in. several times took on multiple LAffers and killed them all. great fun.

it's the most versatile fighter in the MA.

it the CT - i like the zeke when PAC arenas show up.
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