Compassion for people who break the law?

[MrLars]

Originally posted by kappa
MrLars,

whatsa freeper??

Heard of the 'Democratic Underground'?

Most posters are extreem left leaning but there are some level headed ones.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/

Rush has been using selected quotes from this group to further his diatribe...typical of him to use this tactic in his spew.

Free Republic...members known as Freepers are the other side of the coin...wackos on both sides IMO but the FR's are a bit more militant IMO.

Almost all posters are extreemly radical right leaners.

http://www.freerepublic.com/

A bit of warning before going to these boards...the moderators make Skuzzy and LePaul look seem like romper room monitors

[kappa]

Originally posted by MrLars
Heard of the 'Democratic Underground?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/

Rush has been using selected quotes from this group to further his diatribe...typical of him to use this tactic in his spew.

Free Republic...members known as Freepers are the other side of the coin...wackos on both sides IMO but the FR's are a bit more militant IMO.

http://www.freerepublic.com/

excuse my ignorance.. thanks dude 8)

[Saurdaukar]

:::Heuy thumpthumpthump heard past the hills:::

[MrLars]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
:::Heuy thumpthumpthump heard past the hills:::

That was a most welcome sound way back when...

[Mini D]

I like the measure, though I'd take it a step further.  The 3 year visa with a criminal record review at the end.. then a 7 year visa with the possibility of citizenship after antother criminal record review.  Any class whatever misdimeanors or higher and there will be no renewal of the visa... just exportation.

It's how the country was built.  It's how the country has grown.  It's what America was based on.  This is the American way of life.

MiniD

[Sandman]

Woot! If we continue to smoke marijuana, they will end the drug war.

[Tarmac]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Woot! If we continue to smoke marijuana, they will end the drug war.

Rofl.  Seems to be the message the administration is sending.

[ra]

Originally posted by Mini D
I like the measure, though I'd take it a step further.  The 3 year visa with a criminal record review at the end.. then a 7 year visa with the possibility of citizenship after antother criminal record review.  Any class whatever misdimeanors or higher and there will be no renewal of the visa... just exportation.

It's how the country was built.  It's how the country has grown.  It's what America was based on.  This is the American way of life.

MiniD

BS.  America was built on legal immigration, of which we still have plenty.  Telling illegal immigrants that it's OK to stay is a new idea.  Those who go through the trouble of playing by the rules get a big slap in the face.  If you sneak over a fence from Mexico you are free to treat the US as your own country, but if you fly in from Europe carrying a passport you are put through all kinds of paperwork and monitoring.

ra

[Tarmac]

Originally posted by ra
BS.  America was built on legal immigration, of which we still have plenty.  Telling illegal immigrants that it's OK to stay is a new idea.  Those who go through the trouble of playing by the rules get a big slap in the face.  If you sneak over a fence from Mexico you are free to treat the US as your own country, but if you fly in from Europe carrying a passport you are put through all kinds of paperwork and monitoring.

ra

Exactly.  A squaddie of mine is going through this right now.  He's a European student studying here.  Without getting into the bureacratic BS, basically, his visa ran out.  He's not finished with his degree yet -- I believe he's a year away.  He's going home, and hoping that he hears from the government to get permission to come back and finish his studies.  At best, he'll be back next fall, after missing two semesters.  

Now, GWB sends the message that all he has to do is sneak in, and everything's fine.  BS.  

You want in?  Get in legally.  Do we need more low-wage folks here?  Maybe.  If we do, issue more green cards.  Don't look the other way and tell them it's ok to sneak in while other, law abiding people sit across an ocean wishing they could be so fortunate.

[Mini D]

America was built on legal migration?  Wow.  I believe U.S. migration laws were quite a bit down the line.  What this ammounts to is "we're here... and we need to keep it for ourselves".

Sorry, but that's the nationalistic america some want... hell... maybe even most.  But don't pretend for a second it's anything other than greed and hatred that underlies those beliefs.

The status quo is to pretend the illegal immigrants aren't here unless you want to make a statement about something.  This bill is about giving people jobs that they already have "under the table".  The real argument is whether or not to keep "them" there .

Personally, I'd think the influx of immigrants willing to work will cause many citizens that aren't willing to work to wake up from their afternoon naps.

MiniD

[ra]

I won't even touch that.

[Silat]

This is only about 1 thing.

           CHEAP LABOR for BUSINESS

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Look at it from a voting aspect....

They won't be allowed to vote. Next!

[Ossie]

America was built on legal migration? Wow. I believe U.S. migration laws were quite a bit down the line. What this ammounts to is "we're here... and we need to keep it for ourselves".

Sorry, but that's the nationalistic america some want... hell... maybe even most. But don't pretend for a second it's anything other than greed and hatred that underlies those beliefs.

I'll touch it. Don't pretend for a second that this proposal is anything other than greed motivated. The advantages for businesses = immense. The actual advantage for laborers, both legal and illegal mind you, are far from practical, and in some cases non-existant.

How can hatred be such an underlying motive if the very people that are supposed to benefit are themselves at risk of being screwed? It's a bad situation for everybody except those who are already employing illegal immigrants...illegally I might add.

[B17Skull12]

personally i dont like bush and this is one of the few times i would ever say something bad about him in public, but this is just plain stupid.