Spitfire IX Armament

[VooDoo]

As for mixed armament Spit (2xrox + bomb). Any glues about what kind of missions did it fly ?

[GScholz]

Originally posted by Angus
Anyway, dipping the nose into that poddle, the Spitfire wing was stronger than the 109's wing, it could carry more weight (and that being multiplied with G's), and it could carry much more armaments, which was a project removed from the 109's wing after 1940

That is of course complete and utter BS. The 109s wings could take 12Gs, the Spit's 10Gs. The 109s could take 20mm cannon pods under each wing and a 250kg or 500kg bomb centreline. That single 500kg bomb alone exceeds the Spits 1000 lbs load discussed in this thread.

[VO101_Isegrim]

Originally posted by Angus
Well, how about baiting the hook and see if he appears again? Hmm, maybe I should start a thread called "the dreadfully bad 109"??
Anyway, dipping the nose into that poddle, the Spitfire wing was stronger than the 109's wing, it could carry more weight (and that being multiplied with G's), and it could carry much more armaments, which was a project removed from the 109's wing after 1940

Angus, can we see a source for that load factor claim ?

As Scholz pointed out, the 109 could carry a lot more weight under it`s wings than the Spit.

The Spit, with considerable restrictions, was allowed to carry 113kg under each wing.

The 109, without any restriction, could carry 235-250kg under each wing.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by VooDoo
As for mixed armament Spit (2xrox + bomb). Any glues about what kind of missions did it fly ?

Post D-Day with 2 TAF on the continent, the Spit IXs and XVIs were used in ground attack as the air to air targets were drying up.

As I posted much earlier in this thread, one of the Spit XII pilots I got to know, was flying XVI's at this time and his feeling was that in many ways the powers that be were at a loss as to what to do with their squadrons with the airwar so lopsided.

He was shot down dive bombing sub pens , which the 500 pounders they were carrying had no hope of penetrating.  He was a tad bitter about that

Dan/Slack

[VooDoo]

I mean - in what kind of ground attack mission it was used. 2 rox is a pretty small number in terms of WWII rocket accuracy... Special "rocket sharpshooter" squadron ?

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by VooDoo
I mean - in what kind of ground attack mission it was used. 2 rox is a pretty small number in terms of WWII rocket accuracy... Special "rocket sharpshooter" squadron ?

Nothing I've seen, speaks to a specific mission outside of the usual "targets of opportunity'.  In general the rockets were regarded as a poor substitute for the 2 250lb bombs that could have been carried instead on the wing hard points.  

Dan/Slack

[Replicant]

Slack, which squadron you friendly with again?  41 Sqn or 54 Sqn?  They're disbanding them in RL...  Not till 2005/2006 though.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Replicant
Slack, which squadron you friendly with again?  41 Sqn or 54 Sqn?  They're disbanding them in RL...  Not till 2005/2006 though.

41 Squadron.  I heard that the RAF was doing the cutbacks and the Jaguars that 41 Squadron flies are being taken out of service.

RAF Coltishall is being closed as well and that is where the Jags are based.  Spent some time there in 85 at the 41 Squadron reunion.  Talk about history all around.

Kinda sad really

Dan/Slack

[Replicant]

Originally posted by Guppy35
41 Squadron.  I heard that the RAF was doing the cutbacks and the Jaguars that 41 Squadron flies are being taken out of service.

RAF Coltishall is being closed as well and that is where the Jags are based.  Spent some time there in 85 at the 41 Squadron reunion.  Talk about history all around.

Kinda sad really

Dan/Slack

6 Sqn Jaguars will reform as a Typhoon squadron though I don't know about 41 & 54 Sqns.

Kinda silly when you think they've recently spend millions upgrading the Jaguar fleet to GR3 standard.

RAF Coltishall will close in 2006.