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What about Blair?
« on: January 08, 2004, 10:03:22 PM »
I've noticed all the anti-Bush posts here, but have never noticed a single anti or pro-Tony Blair post.  What do you Brits think of him?

Is he really that good or do you just keep quiet about him?

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2004, 11:41:39 PM »
Heh.

If you read what the British are saying and doing about Blair you'd realize that Bush got a "Get out of jail free" card.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2004, 11:43:14 PM »
In typical English fashion, they eat their best first.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2004, 12:39:10 AM »
lol Yeager, you haven't lived in Blair's Britain for the last 6 and half years.

Increased taxes with little or no improvement in public services

No income tax rises, but Stealth taxes by the hundred (petrol etc)

Raiding of pension schemes

Unbelieveably convoluted child benefit system to hide increased government hoarding of cash

Diluted Higher Education standards

Meaningless salamandering about with Secondary schooling

Endless spin

Broken manifesto promises (x2)

Implementation of the Strategic Defence Review (basically less troops but more high tech at a time when we are sending on more troops abroad... weird)

Same shrecked up public transport system (although decades of underfunding meant it was never going to be easy [a big thanks to Maggie Thatcher in particular for that one])

There's really no-one to vote for in this country. I hate to say it, but they really are all the same. The tories won't recind what labour have built in terms of taxation, and the Tories record on public services is appalling to say the least.
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Re: What about Blair?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2004, 01:30:58 AM »
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Originally posted by United
I've noticed all the anti-Bush posts here, but have never noticed a single anti or pro-Tony Blair post.  What do you Brits think of him?

Is he really that good or do you just keep quiet about him?


He's a lying pos who will do ANYTHING to stay in power, type in
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I could go on and on but watching Blair and current gov on tv is sickening - you know they're lying about every time they speak - squirming to give the absolute best view of themselves in every possible circumstance.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2004, 02:16:31 AM »
Bah!

You lot have nothing on the invisible man John Howard our PM.

The more he bows and scrapes the less people care about it!?!?!!!!!

He got out of Iraq scot free, with almost zero backlash.

Old Johnny is lucky George W. doesn't stop suddenly or ole George would end up with Johnny's feet hanging out of his arse!

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2004, 02:27:28 AM »
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Bah!

You lot have nothing on the invisible man John Howard our PM.

The more he bows and scrapes the less people care about it!?!?!!!!!

He got out of Iraq scot free, with almost zero backlash.

Old Johnny is lucky George W. doesn't stop suddenly or ole George would end up with Johnny's feet hanging out of his arse!

 Tronsky


Oi!!.....I take grave exception to the claim that your PM is more disgusting and slimy than ours....ours is WAY more slimy, if you continue to make these wild accusations I will be forced to bring up the matter of the Rugby World Cup.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2004, 02:29:18 AM »
 

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2004, 02:29:51 AM »
At least your PM is funny. The look on his face as he was 'congratulating' the England team was great. :D

Blair is an act. Pure and simple. His public personality is a superficial construct - I really can't take him seriously anymore.

I thought things were about to change for the better in 1997... that feeling lasted all of 3 weeks.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2004, 08:06:47 AM »
For all you Yanks out there who don't understand, this is an example of what Blair doesn't seem to understand:

The Euro.  For years now the debate has raged throughout parliament over the Euro.  Lot of MPs seem to want to hold a referendum, a country wide vote on the subject.  Lots of Brits also hold this view.  Tony Blair doesn't.  Tony Blair once said on camera that he'll decide whether or not we'll have a referendum on any subject and he doesn't think we need one on the Euro.

He doesn't think.


Well I'll tell you what I think shall I Mr Blair?  I think you work for me, you are my Prime Minister, you do what I damn well tell you to do and if there's any confusion about what I want you to do then you can damn well ask me and find out.  

How dare you think you can tell me what I think you should be doing for me.



That's what pisses me off about Blair, that he thinks he can do what he likes even when it's blatently clear that the British public doesn't like it.  The power of peaceful demonstration is gone in England, even if 50 million people demonstrated outside No.10 it wouldn't make any difference simply because the PM doesn't give a toss.  The only defence we have against Tony Blair are other MPs, but like all politicians they're still only out to fill their own agendas anyway so eventually, with plenty of dealing by Blair, he'll get whatever he wants.

Look what he's done / is doing to students.  When he first came to power he cut student grants and introduced the student-loans company, didn't matter how many people protested.  Now he's making it even worse with these 'top up fees', again doesn't matter how many people protest, the only thing he's worried about is the back-bench rebellion going on so in return he's just double dealing with the back benchers until they're no threat anymore.



In other words, the ruler has said "Mwaaahahahahaa, I'm going to sacrifice all your children to the Dragon."  And no matter how much the people cried out he took no notice.  Then the rulers own advisors said "No, you cannot do this." and so, in turn, the ruler spoke to each of them until enough of them have said "Doh, of course you can, I was being silly and incidentally thanks very much for the new estate in Buckinghamshire."

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2004, 01:23:55 PM »
Good posts Dowding & Swoop.

I found this thread when doing a search for something else using 'taxes and tories' as a search argument.

Yes, it's very depressing with Blair/Labour in power, and likely to be re-elected next year by default.

What I would like to see is a rejuvenation of tory fortunes - not another Thatcherite government. I don't want to see another administration which creates divisions - haves/have-nots, and a north-south divide. I don't believe in what Labour is doing/has done. This massive explosion of the public sector is quite alarming - armies of civil servants who achieve... nothing.

Dowding/Swoop - if there were to be a referendum on joining the € , which way would you vote (if you don't mind my asking)? I'm inclined to say I would vote NO. Loss of control over our interest rates is not something which can be taken lightly.

Will we get a € referendum?


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Re: What about Blair?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2004, 01:32:58 PM »
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I've noticed all the anti-Bush posts here, but have never noticed a single anti or pro-Tony Blair post.



We don't complain about Bush's dog either.


See a pattern here?
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2004, 01:48:43 PM »
Gee, sounds like Blair is a diehard Democrat liberal.  At least from the posts I saw here by the Brits.

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2004, 01:50:30 PM »
anyone read the readers digest article this month where they compare bush/blair with churchill/roosevelt?

good article
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2004, 01:59:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Swoop
For all you Yanks out there who don't understand, this is an example of what Blair doesn't seem to understand:

Well I'll tell you what I think shall I Mr Blair?  I think you work for me, you are my Prime Minister, you do what I damn well tell you to do and if there's any confusion about what I want you to do then you can damn well ask me and find out.  

How dare you think you can tell me what I think you should be doing for me.



That's what pisses me off about Blair, that he thinks he can do what he likes


Heh, sounds familiar. Didn't we "colonists" have pretty much the same issue with King George a couple hundred yrs ago?

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