I am starting to think that Bush was the right man for the job

[JBA]

Puts hand to forehead. Must remember to sign in before reading threads to avoid the gibberish from Vader

Guess who received his talking points from the DNC web site before posting. "must spin all good news as right-wing  lies"

[Nakhui]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
How do you know its blind? Have you watched the economic numbers and the figures over the last year? Do you have proof its blind? I have proof its not blind.  Put up or shut up.

It's blind because Bush has no more control over the economy as he does employment.

Prove that he does... put up or shut up.

You might as well give him credit for all the births in America too...

Does he go around screwing all the women and making them pregnant? No!

Nor does he personally causes companies to do well, make more product, sell more product... and thus make more profit.

[Soup Nazi]

Originally posted by Nakhui
It's blind because Bush has no more control over the economy as he does employment.

Prove that he does... put up or shut up.

 

A current Reuters article says: "The U.S. economy rocketed
ahead at its fastest pace in more than 19 years in the third
quarter of 2003 as consumers, their wallets fattened by tax
cuts, went on a buying spree, an unexpectedly strong government report showed on Thursday. "

Or would you prefer the New York Times story about the fastest pace of economic growth in four years, there was this: "Most of that growth stemmed from a sharp rise in consumer spending, driven largely by a continuing boom in mortgage refinancing and checks that were mailed out as part of the recent tax cut."

Low interest rates and tax cuts are the twin strategies of the Bush administration for restoring the economy following the post-9/11 economic problems. They appear to be working.

[midnight Target]

Lets just hope that Bush's economic "bubble" lasts as long as Clinton's.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Lets just hope that Bush's economic "bubble" lasts as long as Clinton's.

You mean the Tech boom?  Would be nice, but even professionals in economics say it was a rare event in our history.

[midnight Target]

Rare because it was the longest growth cycle in history. But you knew that.

Bush only has 6 more years of good economy to match his predecessor.

[Yeager]

the tech bubble to me was a market where everyone knew it was a dishonest inflation of share value and everyone jumped into it with eyes wide open, ripping others and themsleves off in an insane display of greed with absolutely no thought towards future bursting.

Many people were incredibly wealthy beyond what even they knew was feasible and then they were broke.  Just like that. Many stories about tweny somethings with million dollar homes, ferraris and vacation condos in mexico and hawaii and then back home living with mom and dad, running from creditors without a dime in their pocket.  It was a dishonest self inflicted scam.

Unfortunatey, neither clinton can be blamed for that particular lie.

[Pongo]

Rip
I gotta say that this,
"Down, since March 2000, RA. No, unemployment, no matter how small, is never a good thing, but when it drops with a booming ecomony, thats a good thing. Tax cuts work. End of story. "

is an unusual post. The job news was viewed every where but by you as negative. It droped the market 133 points. But you present it here as a ringing endorsement of the president?
I dont really get it.

[Virage]

Fox News


and who is this Vader?

[lord dolf vader]

propaganda he probly parroting am radio. and likes his gravy train.

dont see alot of micky ds employees posting this bile.

add fascists mascarading as conservatives and nothing suprising at all.

and the poster has a poor record on "truth"

i really  wish he would credit his stuff and stop stealing intelectual propert.  he isn't smart enought to even understant his own posts.

his rebuttals tend to be hu? what? read the link!!!!

[MrLars]

Originally posted by Virage
Fox News


and who is this Vader?

Think Faux doesn't spin the news from AP?
Omitting unfavorable paragraphs IS SPIN no matter how you look at it.

Faux Sez...

Job growth is expected to be a key issue as November's presidential election nears. The economy has lost about 2.3 million jobs since President Bush took office.

AP sez...

Job growth is expected to be a key issue as November's presidential election nears, and President Bush could be vulnerable. The economy has lost about 2.3 million jobs since he took office, giving him the worst job creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.


AP Sez...

Bush "has all but declared 'mission accomplished' on an economy that is still not generating jobs and that is losing manufacturing jobs each and every month," Democratic presidential hopeful Wesley Clark said. "I think it's time that George W. Bush loses his job so that we can put the American people back to work."

Faux decides to omit that whole paragraph.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thrawn, they calculate the data the same way as they did when unemployment was 4.7 in April 2000 and likewise when it was 6.7 in March 2003.  They are never counted. So whats the point again, Thrawn/Pongo?

Well that's a good question.  What is your point?  You seem to me to be saying that you think Bush is a good President because there has been no general increase or decrease in actual employment in December.

But it's more likely that you just made a mistake and assumed  that a drop unemployment ment a correlating rise in employment.

[Yeager]

fox is the only source that spins the news for a conservative bias in a us media market where 90% of the others provide
"alternative (lmao)" liberal bias.  The mainstream us media is still dominated by a liberal bias but the liberals are damned pissed (keyword faux) that fox is as successfull as it is, even though its alone in its market.  Figures as usual and the predictable condition reeks of typical liberal hatred towards any opposing point of view.  

do you really want to know who vader is?  I dont think so.

[Holden McGroin]

Something I stumbled upon recently, at least I found it interesting...

Manufacturing Payrolls Declining Globally: The Untold Story
By Joseph Carson, Senior Vice President and U.S. Economist

The popular explanation for the decline in US manufacturing payrolls is that American workers are being categorically replaced by workers in China and other parts of Asia. In truth, factory jobs have been slashed not only in America and Europe, but in Asia as well.

Contrary to popular belief, the global push to relocate facilities to countries with lower production costs has not caused an increase in manufacturing employment in those areas. In fact, since 1995, the reduction of manufacturing jobs in China has been as large as that of any other country.

Merely lowering operating costs is not enough for businesses to survive today. Enormous gains in technology have raised the bar on global competitiveness, punishing firms with outmoded facilities regardless of their location.

These new developments are certainly bullish for both the US and global economies, as manufacturers will need to continue to invest in innovative technologies in order to remain competitive.

One of our more interesting findings is that, taken on its own, China's job losses are double the average of the remaining 17 countries* for the same seven-year period. Manufacturing employment in the 17 largest economies other than China fell a little more than 7%, from 96 million in 1995 to 89 million in 2002. In contrast, China's fell a whopping 15% in the period, from 98 million in 1995 to 83 million in 2002.

[ra]

The popular explanation for the decline in US manufacturing payrolls is that American workers are being categorically replaced by workers in China and other parts of Asia. In truth, factory jobs have been slashed not only in America and Europe, but in Asia as well.

A more meaningful comparison of manufacturing would be the share of global manufacturing GDP which each country produces.   You can bet those figures would show Asia's share increasing and the US/Europe decreasing.  Percentage changes in manufacturing employment don't mean much.

ra