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Offline Zaphod

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i used to think all the countrys used the same tactics but how wrong i m
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2004, 01:45:12 PM »
All P51s, Doras and (insert fast any fast plane) do is run...... I'm gonna start complaining about the Spits , Niks, Zekes and (insert any good turning plane here) turning all the time.

Every country has people who fly at high alts all the time.  So what.   If you don't want to be the low guy, climb.  

Every country has at some point in time, numbers.  If you don't want to be mobbed, don't fly into the mobs, or grab over em...(see above).

If I'm in a pony (happens alot..see first comment) then no...I'll not be diving into your group of planes (no matter what the type) and turning with you if I don't have to.  I'll be busy trying to keep my E up vs yours and attempting to pick at your group.  And when the group gets to be about co-e with me, I'll be leaving thank you very much.

If you don't like the fast planes running from you, then fly a fast plane.  It's not really that heroic of a thing to outturn a pony in a spit or similar circumstances anyway.  Outturn the pony (or the spit) in a pony and you've done something.

On the other hand it is not that big a deal to win an E fight vs. any other plane if you start out with the advantage...although it seems to be for some folks.  Win from a disadvantage...that's doing something too.

Cherry Picking.....I can't believe that someone would just let one of their countrymen die.  It happens I know but still......unless I get a definitive request from my buddy NOT to jump in, I'm all up in the fight.  I'm thinking most others are too.  Now if you kill the cherry picker and his buddy, your a hero...feel free to gloat publicly.  I generally avoid gloating because it would be so rare that I COULD gloat that it would draw attention to the fact I have nothing to gloat about most of the time I am playing the game.  

P.S....all you spit, nik, La and (insert good turner here..again) that think all a pony or jug can do is bnz or run...thank you.  Nothing is more satisfying that getting lucky and popping one of ya diving on my pony or jug from on high at about a zillion miles an hour.  (I stress luck heavily)

Zaphod the Non-Turning-Running-Cherry-Picking-Lamer-P51-Dweeb.

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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2004, 02:02:58 PM »
Yea yea yea, Rooks are alt monkeys and bish fly nothing but Spits and Laffers. Well I have flown with all 3 countries and it is just a matter of perception. You tend to notice people doing different things then you are. If your main ride is a Typhoon (like me) and you tend to fly at 12-15k then "everyone" above you is an alt monkey. If your attacking a base with a heavy advantage then "everyone" on that side will be in a laffer and a spit because they are easy to defend with.

Try the other side of the fence now and then and you will see that the view doesnt change much.

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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2004, 02:20:53 PM »
****ing idiots

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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2004, 02:27:28 PM »
you can lead a horses arse to water, but you cant make him think.

It's obvious to me, sim doesnt want to see the other perspective, & no amount of logic, or number of examples will sway him. But it is refreshing to see that many people have the same view of what to expect in the MA that I have.

This thread sure did get alot of posts in a short time:D

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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2004, 02:28:04 PM »
Anyone Flying above you is an Alt Monkey

Anyone Flying below you is a Weed wacker.  

 ;)

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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2004, 02:30:17 PM »
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Anyone Flying above you is an Alt Monkey

Anyone Flying below you is a Weed wacker.  

 ;)


anyone co-alt is a HOjoustrunawayflee dweeb.

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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2004, 02:36:58 PM »
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anyone co-alt is a HOjoustrunawayflee dweeb.

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LOL!!!

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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2004, 02:50:44 PM »
Well to be honest, given about equal speed, the only plane I enjoy being under is a b26 :D But I don't think many people climb to 20k over the base they took off from. I also don't know if its smart to fly 300+ ias to a fight a sector away. Why not 250 and convert any excess speed to alt (omitting those occaisions when a fast arrival is essential)? And if the fight ends before you get there and you have to go  further for a fight, I can see how it might seem you're an alt monkey when in reality you haven't been blowing e with excess speed.

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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2004, 03:11:23 PM »
lol shane

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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2004, 03:27:08 PM »
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whats been geting to me is how you guys never fight




So do you mean All Rooks never fight, most Rooks never fight, or a preponderence of the Rooks you engage never fight?  First it was Rooks are alt monkeys, now it's Rooks never fight, and as you state this opinion is based on 3 nights of flying. Keep digging Sim...you'll make it to China yet.

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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2004, 04:11:46 PM »
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IMO, the fastest way to get better is to fight those guys. Most of 'em are willing to help you, too. Ya just don't seem to get better from taking the easy fights.

I mean vultching is the easiest kill there is, essentially. Does it make you better? Not really.. you don't learn anything.

Engage. Have fun. It's a game.

DING! We have a winner, not a whiner.  ;)

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« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2004, 04:27:34 PM »
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So do you mean All Rooks never fight, most Rooks never fight, or a preponderence of the Rooks you engage never fight? First it was Rooks are alt monkeys, now it's Rooks never fight, and as you state this opinion is based on 3 nights of flying. Keep digging Sim...you'll make it to China yet.


ALL OF THE ABOVE!!! LOLH:rofl

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« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2004, 05:31:34 PM »
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IMO, the fastest way to get better is to fight those guys. Most of 'em are willing to help you, too. Ya just don't seem to get better from taking the easy fights.

I mean vultching is the easiest kill there is, essentially. Does it make you better? Not really.. you don't learn anything.

Engage. Have fun. It's a game.


Best thing I have read in this thread that made any sense, given ya a thataboy Toad :aok
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2004, 06:16:28 PM »
Vulchin is easy and no you dont learn anything, but man it sure is fun when you are on the giving end. :aok

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« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2004, 08:26:29 PM »
My game pc blew its guts all over the place t'other day.  Soon as I get a new one, I'll be back in the main arena.  Couple of weeks away, hopefully.

Flying in the MA is a great experience...so just SHUT UP and enjoy it!  On the nights when there are more than 500 people logged on it would be a ruddy miracle if there WASN'T someone above you.

Oh... and newb...watch out for the guys with the following handles;

Drex
Leviathn
Toad
Rude
Nath
Widewing

Did I leave anyone out?

Shuckins