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Offline Montezuma

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Re: What would Reagan have done?
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2004, 10:23:23 PM »
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What would ol' Ronny have done if faced with 9-11 or something similar?  Discuss.


Have Nancy call the astrologer...

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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2004, 11:06:11 PM »
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BTW- did reagan end comunism?


Cuba and China know the answer to that riddle.

As far as Bush and his administration aggresively pursuing terrorists(not directed at you Apathy), he seems to have skipped over several primary candidate countries and gone straight to a tertiary (if it can even be called that) country. If you call that aggresive, then you must believe a Gerbil is the optimal attack dog.
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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2004, 12:04:40 PM »
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Cuba and China know the answer to that riddle.

As far as Bush and his administration aggresively pursuing terrorists(not directed at you Apathy), he seems to have skipped over several primary candidate countries and gone straight to a tertiary (if it can even be called that) country. If you call that aggresive, then you must believe a Gerbil is the optimal attack dog.
-SW



Love the analogy... :)
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Offline Westy

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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2004, 12:45:29 PM »
"Well, as much as I liked him, he never retaliated for the 1983 Beruit bombing that killed over 200 Marines. That sent a message to the Arab world that has taken a long time to correct."

Bingo! And that's the historical truth.

All of the the rest being proposed by a few is shallow conjecture about what Ronnie would "if" ......

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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2004, 12:50:16 PM »
Who insulted Carter's patriotism? Is it your belief that pacifists are unpatriotic?

And in the context of the cold war Carter was a pacifist, unlike reagan or kennedy for example.

Your dislike for me cannot change the truth of that statement.

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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2004, 12:56:16 PM »
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BTW- did reagan end comunism?  the same people who claim he did are ussually the same ones who say it is a impractical form of gov't and was doomed to fail.  so which is it?  was comunism great and strong but old ronny ray-gun put an end to that dirty menace.  or was it doomed for failure and he just happened to be in office when it happened, and took credit for it?


When GORBACHEV was appointed secretary general in 1985, the USSR could no longer keep up financing the arms race (accelerated, in a bluff, by the Reagan administration) so, in summary, he certainly had an influence on the historical event, much to your demise I'm sure.

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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2004, 01:24:52 PM »
Ripsnort: When GORBACHEV was appointed secretary general in 1985, the USSR could no longer keep up financing the arms race (accelerated, in a bluff, by the Reagan administration)

 That is more of a western legend than the real case. Curiously, the afghan peasants have a similar legend that it was them who destroyed the Soviet Union.
 There is no basis for believing that Soviet Union accelerated the arms race at all, let alone beyong its ability to survive. Cold War was not a real war - just an armed standoff. Soviet Army was run on the cheap and in my personal opinion it would have proved totally inadequate in a real conflict.
 Most of the soviet reality, including the army, was a total fake.
 Soviet Union was slowly degrading economically as any socialist country does but it could have continued doing so for many more decades if Gorbachev did not try his policy changes. I am pretty sure that Reagan or foreign politics was the last thing on his mind.

 If anything, the Reagan's embargoes and saber-rattling caused more support for the communist government from the population - most of whom believed that the Berlin Wall was a good thing protecting socialist Germany from incursions.

 It was only after the Glasnost - which was nothing more than liberalisation of the media - that people realised that NATO is not planning to attack their country. That seriously weakened their support for the party government.

 As Goering said, "The people can always be brought to the bidding of leaders. That's easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked..."


 As for what would Reagan has done after 9/11, if we take the Lebanon experience as a rough guide, he would have bombed some village allegedely full of terrorists and then withdrawn the US troops from Saudi Arabia like OBL requested and that would have been the end of it.
 That is of course if he did not withdraw the troops from SA after the first WTC bombing or the Cole bombing.

 miko