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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #405 on: February 08, 2004, 11:31:13 AM »
Thead losing heat ... slowing down. Boilers need stoking. Not my job, man. So why post? Every lil post helps the post-count.

Grrrr! Spitfires!

Grrrr! 109s!

Grrrr! Luftwaffe!

Grrrr! RAF ... and her lil allies too!

Your side sucked!

No yours did!

No yours did!

You're delusional!

You're a revisionist!

I read a book!

I read a better book!

I've read every book!

My comprehension's better than yours!

In a pig's eye!

Leave your mother out of it!

You're now resorting to personal attacks!

Grrrr! Spitfires!

Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #406 on: February 08, 2004, 12:04:40 PM »
Wouldn't want to let those Arlo "grrrr Spitfires" go by untouched :)

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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #407 on: February 08, 2004, 01:05:47 PM »
I can tell by the pictures that the war suffered terribly from biased mismodeling.

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« Reply #408 on: February 08, 2004, 01:21:52 PM »
mmm Spitfire!!



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« Reply #409 on: February 08, 2004, 01:51:58 PM »
Absolutely. Gotta love that Spit :)

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« Reply #410 on: February 09, 2004, 12:02:01 AM »
Crumpp,
I wonder where is the problem. Even your own source (Lund) admits that the LW had no reserves to keep strenght and also admits that the RAF still had reserves and could keep strenght  in the end of the 2nd phase. All this has been pointed out several times in last couple hundred messages and so far you have not bring in any data on supposed LW reserves despite you claimed those proven.

Anyway, that other luftflottes theory was quite hilarious.

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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #411 on: February 09, 2004, 02:22:40 AM »
The spit IX is way overmodelled and the allied A/C are all favored By HiTech himself so they are all overmodelled.


Yep, the jig is up. Storch had exposed AH for what it really is. And HT almost got away with it. Damn you Storch and your little JG 3 too!!!

Offline Crumpp

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« Reply #412 on: February 09, 2004, 04:35:09 AM »
If the LW was hurting so bad as you seems to think?  then why does Lund conclude that they could have won the BoB  Crumpp

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« Reply #413 on: February 09, 2004, 04:52:56 AM »
Because he too is merely another discredited luftwhiner.

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« Reply #414 on: February 09, 2004, 07:05:06 AM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Good One Seeker!

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« Reply #415 on: February 09, 2004, 07:35:18 AM »
Crumpp,
As pointed several times; Lund uses (possibly purposedly) wrong numbers on the fighter command strenght to support his theories. Nashwan has pointed out this to you several times.

In additon Lund uses sometimes kill claims as Nashwan pointed out and according to you (6.2.04) :

"To quote sources that do not use the Actual loss data for each Air Force is to just further muddle the picture and only supports a revisionist argument."

Well, that's funny and just look above to check who talked about revisionist history. Generally you appear to have quite short memory.

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« Reply #416 on: February 09, 2004, 02:48:57 PM »
No that has not been pointed out.  A bunch of junk that doesn't correspond to the RAF or the Imperial War Museum stuff was posted.  Both of those sources correspond with Lund's numbers.


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« Reply #417 on: February 09, 2004, 05:18:55 PM »
Crumpp,
Interesting , there is no numbers in the IWM site and RAF numbers are same as Nashwan used. Your other link was somekind of retro stuff store. Hm... sounds desperate. What next?

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Offline Angus

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« Reply #418 on: February 09, 2004, 06:04:20 PM »
One silly question, - there are way too many links already. Yes, I am a lazy SoB.....
The LW had groups in Denmark and Norway at the time of the BoB. They tried an attack on the "flank", on the NE of England, presumably putting their money on that the British had no reserves left. The British however did (!)= and drove the LW back with some losses. It was not tried again.
So, did those units merge with those operating from France,or stay where they were?

BTW,if you're looking for numbers and such, I have an interesting game,- BOB strategy game from Talonsoft. Seems to have all numbers listed, and although not so playable, the outcomes in it are quite realistic. As LW, I won, as RAF,I also won :D  In both cases, I sucked all reserves to the front while my computer opponent did not!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #419 on: February 10, 2004, 12:49:32 PM »
Thread ... slowing .... down. People ... not ... posting ... not ... arguing .... to ... the ... death ... anymore. Must .... post ... something. Keep .... thread ... alive ....

Luftwaffe sucked.

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