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Offline fscott

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Where is the 20mm F6F version?
« on: December 26, 2000, 09:44:00 PM »
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Offline RAM

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2000, 10:24:00 PM »
In the books. Listed as F6F5-N.

Put that radar pod on the right wing of the F6F5, add the drag it causes, add the weight it adds, and add the negative maneouverability it causes.

And then you can get your 20mm
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2000, 10:45:00 PM »
They put 20mm's on non-nightfighter versions also.  However, I haven't seen any information which is at all specific about how many were produced.

 http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/hist-ac/f6f-5.pdf  has some more information.

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2000, 11:38:00 PM »
Yes, my thoughts also. I know they put two 20mm cannons plus 4 .50 cals on the normal batch of f6f5's but do not have any numbers on them.  My thoughts if your going to model a plane of which only 200 were produced (f4u1c), then why not have this as an option. No need to change the designation, just add the 20mm cannons as an option in the hanger.

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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2000, 11:49:00 PM »
I have to agree with RAM on this one.

I'm glad they gave us a Hellcat with the classic Hellcat armament.

We have enough cannon armed aircraft.  If you really want cannon, grab one of them.

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2000, 12:27:00 AM »
Who gives a darn about how many of what a/c was produced? This game isn't modeled for the most numbers of planes...but about those that were in the war. F4U-1C was in WWII....so why can't it be here? Cannons on the F6F...there was a version of it...so why not here?

I mean it...those who post "only 200 were built so it shouldn't be here" are only whiners. Let's not call it a WWII sim...let's call it "Combat Sim with Most Popular Aircraft That No One Whines About"

 

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2000, 01:16:00 AM »
According to Hooligan's site, the mixed 20's/.50's "could be fitted".

So, it's just an armament loadout option, like gondolas on LW aircraft?

 

Kinda makes your knees shake, doesn't it?

Put it in. It's worth it just to hear the screams!
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2000, 01:44:00 AM »
Yeah, and then there's 4x20mm Spitfires(all marques post VC), 2x20mm gondolas for Fw 190(6x20mm total), MK 108 gondolas, 2x20mm+1x23mm for Yak-9U etc...

Funny thing - I've never seen a single photo of a F6F with cannon - only diagrams -hmmmm...  
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2000, 01:53:00 AM »
Texace, are you lobbying for the me-262, the He-162, the Komet, the Ar-234?

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Offline RAM

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2000, 02:31:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by texace:
Who gives a darn about how many of what a/c was produced? This game isn't modeled for the most numbers of planes...but about those that were in the war. F4U-1C was in WWII....so why can't it be here? Cannons on the F6F...there was a version of it...so why not here?

I mean it...those who post "only 200 were built so it shouldn't be here" are only whiners. Let's not call it a WWII sim...let's call it "Combat Sim with Most Popular Aircraft That No One Whines About"


OK texace, we will do one thing. Everyone here knows that some (not many, still some means HUNDREDS) Fw190As got their cowling MGs removed, along with their ammo.

That means about 350lbs of dead weight...you remember the uberwhines about the Fw190A5 in 1.03?...that was because the FM was that of a G3 with no cowling guns.

AS way more 190s had MGs removed than F6Fs had cannons, I want my option to remove those dirty useless things from my plane, to get back the 4500fps climbrate at 0feet of the 1.03 A5.

then you get your cannons for the hellcat (And the MK108 gondolas for the 109G, and the MG151 gondolas to make 190A8 have 6x20mm cannons, and...you follow me?)

sorry if I sound a bit harsh. Just got one teeth removed this morning and I'm in bad mood.

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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2000, 02:44:00 AM »
Wheres pair of torpedos and 1000kg (+2000lb) bombs from Ju-88?
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2000, 02:49:00 AM »
 
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 sorry if I sound a bit harsh. Just got one teeth removed this morning and I'm in bad mood.


Sounded pretty normal.   In fact, totally normal.    
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2000, 02:51:00 AM »
 
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Sounded pretty normal.     In fact, totally normal.        

Strange...toad jumping into a thread without being called and with no other motive, nor reason, than to slam people he dislikes...

Really, man, you need more my calmants for the pain than me. Maybe that way you can stop the shudder and shivers you suffer each time you see a post from the people you so much "like"...

Toad I suggest you to learn to go into a thread when you have SOMETHING to say on the topic (I dont mind if its constructive or not)...simply I think that its a good thing that you learn how to avoid jumping on anyone you dislike each time that the guy postes something.



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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2000, 04:08:00 AM »
 
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Wheres pair of torpedos and 1000kg (+2000lb) bombs from Ju-88?

Don't forget the 20mm cannon.  

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2000, 05:54:00 AM »
The problem is Toad... RAM is dead right!  If we're gonna model aircraft with such restricted numbers, why not allow deletion of the 190's cowl guns?  (assuming that there are sufficient references to show this was a fairly common practice)

I mean, we DO want to be fair to all sides here, don't we?  

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