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« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2004, 01:36:55 AM »
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The obvious answer to this problem is simple.  Give Ecke moderator powers.  Then he can right all the wrongs that he has seen happen in the past.  I am sure that with Ecke as a moderator, channel 1 will be 150% better controlled.





:rolleyes:


As a matter of fact sling, it would. Ecke's a VERY polite person. Look me in the eyes and tell me you've never used a *** word.

wait...I have a better idea... make SOB a moderator!
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« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2004, 06:24:12 AM »
I'm not the one complaining about the job being done by the moderators Saw.  I never said I have never sweared on channel 1 before either.  But I can guarantee one thing......I have never been muted for swearing.  I can take a hint.  When the mod tells you to shut up....you shut up.  It really is that simple.  Its pretty amazing how that happens......you get a warning....you shut up....problem solved.

If I had the power, I would have muted him too.  Judging by what Ecke said, it can be construed as he was taunting the mod by spelling **** in a different language.  I cant count the number of times I have seen someone on channel 1 announce to everyone that he just got warned and then he shoots off a message taunting the moderator.  If you keep teasing the dog, sooner or later you are gonna get bit.

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« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2004, 08:54:12 AM »
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I cant count the number of times I have seen someone on channel 1 announce to everyone that he just got warned and then he shoots off a message taunting the moderator.  If you keep teasing the dog, sooner or later you are gonna get bit.


And I cannot count the number of times that people are cursing on all chans and vox and my kids have to hear (they cannot read yet) it with no action being taken.  The complain is not that the mods mute people.  The complain is that they don;t do it often enough nor when they should.  This is rediculus.  Curse and you get a warning, maybe.  Hurt the mods ego and you get muted.

PS. I still have the film if HT needs an example of what I am talking about.
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« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2004, 09:40:50 AM »
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And I cannot count the number of times that people are cursing on all chans and vox and my kids have to hear (they cannot read yet) it with no action being taken.


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« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2004, 10:09:36 AM »
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If I had the power, I would have muted him too.

If you would not have muted me, you would be a bad mod. (And i doubt HT would really have ejected me because of this..hehe ..i believe in god)
Ok, i wrote this
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It was unnecessary what happend.

This seems to be a whine. But it is not.
If the mods only show presence when it comes to  mutilatings....isnt that absurd?
He/she looks out only for shiit,chit and so on. There is nothing else to do for the mod. The text filter is still running in the background, sending profanity messages automatically and he/she dont cares about the existing but 'clean' violation.
I was trapped by that absurdness when started my little conversation with the mod.
This would probably not have happenend if the mods work properly.
When i could read the game chat without all the existing violations, and then i would get a profanity message because of 'shiit', i would probably answer :rgr mod! Keep on the good work!

This thread is not about me...its about the efficiency of the mods.
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« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2004, 10:41:21 AM »
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If the mods only show presence when it comes to mutilatings....isnt that absurd?


I do think you don't wanted do use this word ...
but it's pretty funny




is it a freudian slip ? :D

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« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2004, 11:52:59 AM »
Ecke...Dedalos...

When I first started playing AH I talked to him about his "hall monitors". As the guy that was head game op on AOL for Air Warrior for about 5 years, I do have a bit of experience in doing this job.

On AOL (and later on Gamestorm), the game ops (hall monitors) were expected to make their presence known in the arenas. It came to the point where game ops were expected to work a schedule and cover most of the hours in the day. Since they were ALL unpaided volunteers, it got a bit silly. HT has his monitors "helping out" when they are online. They don't have a schedule. That means that there can be plenty of times when there is no live monitoring of the arena. This explains why you can sometimes see stuff go by and nothing be done about it. When I pointed out to HT that this system had a lot of loop holes, he said the the overhead to do it anyother way was prohibitive. He also pointed out that NO ONE knows who the monitors are. This means that the monitors in AH don't have to deal with the harassment that we had to put of with on AOL and GS.

Not saying any of this makes it "right". Just saying this is the way it is :).
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« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2004, 12:18:28 PM »
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Ecke...Dedalos...


Well, I agree with you.  This is the way it is.  It would be nice if it could change for the better though
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« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2004, 12:28:58 PM »
Ecke, mein bruder. I apologize for playing a part in your getting muted, the other day.   It should not be a secret that I have been muted, roughly 4 times in the almost 3 years I've been playing.  However, one time I was muted (NOT by someone at HTC) for typing a single sentence in all caps (There was not a single, solitary cuss word typed by me).  I was IN FACT, informing my fellow countrymen where a certain rivals' Task force was spotted.   When in fact the Moderator nabbed me instead of the person cussing.   I in turn was flamed by someone on BBS for posting screenshots (over the course of being muted) of the cussing that was "allowed to pass through by the same moderator".   I in turn was informed of Saw's Picture Hanger. I posted roughly 4 to 5 screenshots (I even left my Muted message up and to the side, as proof). of the banter by the same 5-6 individuals.  Funny thing is about the above incident, I wasn't even warned (but afterwards was told to calm down).   What is even funnier, I never cussed or slighted ANYONE.  The coup de gras was seeing my BBS post deleted by HTC the following morning.  To that I extend an "atta boy" to HTC.  

HTC does a terrific job, I have received warnings in the past and respected them.  There are some people "volunteering" that hit several players and allow certain "veterans" to get away with murder.  This is the only problem I have with the "volunteers".  If you choose to be a moderator in the evening, then DO IT.  Don't "choose"  the who's, why's, etc.  If someone blatantly cusses, mute him, regardless of AH status, being an old warhorse from AW.  Do the job correctly, and be just.  I mean it on one hand for "the Dickweed HBG" to allow use the squadname, and two days ago type on ch.1 "We are Dickweeds".   Classy.   I have no respect for the squad as they blatantly crossed the line and are free from the muting.   Call me what you will for saying the above, I can careless what you think.

I do feel that the circumstances for which Ecke was muted were uncalled for,  in the sense that I was digging up old German from my high school days of over 15 years ago.   Come on, I was as guilty as Ecke for typing "Scheise" w/o another S, that moderator knew what I was typing as Ecke followed.   Either way, it was BS that I did not get muted, as was MORE guilty in this instance.  

Ecke, is not outspoken in his character, he is a gentleman and a great person to chat with on the country channel.   Ecke, you know at the expense of the muting I appreciate your correcting me in my education of German.  I sometimes type in German to the Abbeville Kids. It is out of respect that I type it, and correctly.  I owe you that much as being an American who speaks English.   I also type on your BBS, maybe that is where our "Sheisse's" should happen from know on.   Ecke, I do apologize again.  

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« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2004, 12:37:57 PM »
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Stand in their midst and start cursing and screaming obsceneties. You'll find yourself either beaten to a pulp by the parents(self policing) or you'll find your self facing an officer(s) citing you for whatever the local law proscribes. i.e. disturbing the peace, lewdness... etc. Why should AH be different?


Uh I don't really know in what kind of a conservatist and narrowminded society you live in, but I'd never expect to be charged by any bystander or (even less) arrested for using a couple curses while chatting to someone in public.

So the parents actually think it's ok for the children to witness an innocent bystander get physically assaulted by their parents for saying a couple words? I'd say that's far more detrimental for a child. :rolleyes:

What about a cop arresting someone using more than 2 profanities while talking to someone? Will teach them to watch what they say in public thats for sure. :) Big Brother and all.

AH has a filter list for bad words.. which is dumbfounding. Even words that have several meanings are muted if they can be understood as curses in some consecuence. So you won't even have to mean to insult someone, you can (and will) get muted by accident.

The land of the free, the home of the censored.
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« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2004, 12:47:19 PM »
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He also pointed out that NO ONE knows who the monitors are. This means that the monitors in AH don't have to deal with the harassment that we had to put of with on AOL and GS.


I know one of the moderators,  but i respect their privacy so i never said one word to anyone.  Just wish he was more online :-)

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« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2004, 12:48:08 PM »
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Uh I don't really know in what kind of a conservatist and narrowminded society you live in, but I'd never expect to be charged by any bystander or (even less) arrested for using a couple curses while chatting to someone in public.


I didn't say anything about chatting or being arrested.  I'm not going allow you to change the scenario to suit your needs.  Are you so gauche that you regularly swear in front of other's children?  What Elf pointed out to me is that at just about any given time, when you type in text in the game, someone's minor child is watching.  Do you not tend to monitor your speech more carefully when you are having a conversation in front of children?  

I for one have been guilty many times of using profanity, masked or otherwise, in the text buffer.  I continue to try to change my behavior so as not to expose someone's else's child to language that their parents may see as unsuitable.  
It's a good thing you are not going to come back to the game, since you basically admit you cannot control yourself. There is one less person a parent like Elfie has to worry about.
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« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2004, 12:52:45 PM »
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I know one of the moderators, but i respect their privacy so i never said one word to anyone.


Me too WT... but I doubt we found out the same way.  :p
 I used to get muted w/ some regularity, adn by watching the roster I found a pattern, was able to determine who it was.
I've deserved every mute I've ever received.  IMHO the mods do not make enough mistakes to warrant some kind of overhaul of the current system.  I know they have helped me.  After getting a warning or a mute, I always realize "Hey, what I typed WAS inappropriate."
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« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2004, 01:14:13 PM »
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Well, I agree with you.  This is the way it is.  It would be nice if it could change for the better though



If it did....it would cost everyone more. The only way to do it "right" would be to hire people to do it. That would mean user fees go up. Hmm, on second thought....higher fees would get rid of the riff raff...I'm all for it :D.
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« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2004, 01:24:38 PM »
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If it did....it would cost everyone more. The only way to do it "right" would be to hire people to do it. That would mean user fees go up. Hmm, on second thought....higher fees would get rid of the riff raff...I'm all for it :D.


There you go :aok
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