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Offline FUNKED1

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« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2004, 02:55:02 PM »
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With Bush's (sr' and his that hge was making) connections there was no way in hell he was getting out with anything less than an honorable discharge.


Huh?  HGE?
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« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2004, 02:55:33 PM »
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So Kerry answers his country's call and does his duty, even tho he does not believe in it. When he returns home he does everything he can to make sure noone else has to die in a War they did not believe in. OMG how can we allow this man to walk around free? He obviously should have had strings pulled so he could have stayed stateside to ditch his duties to work on political campaigns.

I'm still leaning in Clark's direction, but a Kerry/Clark ticket does not sound bad.


If that's how you see Kerry, then you're not payin attention to what he really did and why.
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« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2004, 02:59:26 PM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
RPM said it already, but it bears repeating.....

1. He serves with distinction.. Silver Star, Bronze Star, 3x Purple Heart.
2. He comes home and excersizes his right as an American to protest the War.
3. Some idiot considers this a contradiction.
4. Sheeesh!


Are you aware of recent accounts by his peers of that time, that he was only looking for an issue to advance his political career? Did you watch 60 minutes?

Are your eyes open for only Bush?:)
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« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2004, 03:00:01 PM »
Kerry/Clark won't happen...

"Kerry was only a Lt. and I was a General." Clark

Kerry/Edwards has more plausability.
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« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2004, 03:03:37 PM »
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Funked I tend to agree that it was okay for draft dodgers and people who were against that war to have walked away.  I even support those who went to Canada to avoid having to serve.

 But Bush was not drafted. He also cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars in training.  And he flaunts and hypes that dubious, non-combat career at every opportunity he has while at the same time he cuts verterans benefits at home and fails to help properly equip the US forces in Iraq.

 At this time do you want me to cut&paste articles on this or should I just provide the links to the issue?



 So while you seem to feel that his choice to not perform his duty for over a year (in the safe, cushy, part-time, stateside assignment he had) wasn't illegal and improper I certainly do since tries to use his military "record" as a chest thumping positive.  And from my readings on Bush's background many other people feel the same too.

 My post was slightly subtle sarcasm aimed at Eagler and his hateful sounding opinion of Kerrys' actions as an anti-war vet and activist. At least Kerry served and earned thos medals. things I cannot say of the current brave Commander in Chief.


C'mon Westy....just tell the truth...you hate Bush and can't stand the fact that he got elected.

Just because he didn't serve in country he's a bad man? Safe and cushy? You ever fly a fighter hotshot? It's dangerous and folks die while training every year.

No one will change your mind.....it's just interesting how hateful you sound when you post.
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« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2004, 03:03:48 PM »
More than that Ping.  With the candidates from both sides IMO no matter who gets elected your average US citizen is going to take up the rear.  It'll boil down to whether one wants to vote for a long or short shaft.
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« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2004, 03:08:55 PM »
Westy so you assume it must have been corruption that got him the Honorable Discharge, not the simpler explanation that the confusion about his attendance was resolved to the USAF's satisfaction?
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« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2004, 03:09:44 PM »
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More than that Ping.  With the candidates from both sides IMO no matter who gets elected your average US citizen is going to take up the rear.  It'll boil down to whether one wants to vote for a long or short shaft.

It's not even long or short.  It's just a question of whether you want ribbed or lubricated.
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« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2004, 03:09:59 PM »
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Originally posted by Westy
"how can you be both? "

 Easy!  A military hero is someone who distinguished themselves in combat (something GWB never did btw).   And since this is the US of A and not Nazi Germany or North Korea he's MORE than earned the right (which all US citizens have under the 1st Amendment. Till GWB yanks that too...) to express his emotions towards the government or the military complex which had sent over 58,0000 Americans to thier death in such a bull**** war.


Express his emotions? Oh...you must mean the throwing of his medals...oh wait...they were not his medals....nevermind.

You serve in Nam you little toad or are you just a student of the war?

Well, if Kerry wins the big one, I know I'll feel better that everything will get fixed and he'll bring peace and prosperity to the USofA....and just in the knick of time too....4 more years of Bush and life would end as we know it.

Some of you guys got it all figured out.:)
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« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2004, 03:12:11 PM »
Rude, I had no opinion on Bush at election time. He seemd to me to be a puppet but then so did Gore.  So I did not vote for either.

 However in two years time I have come to regret seeing Bush elected. So  yes you're right.  And FWIW I'll accept almost any other candidate, from literally any other political party, over him in 2004.    Almost.  For IMO Kerry is a lousy choice as he's similar to Bush, in that he's a "career" politician, and Kerry voted favorably in 2001 on the legislation that empowered Bush.
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« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2004, 03:13:16 PM »
"You serve in Nam you little toad or are you just a student of the war? "

Get a grip.
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« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2004, 03:14:54 PM »
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In any case, it's irrelevant. The issue here is not what Kerry (or Dubya) did in the service. It's what Kerry did AFTER his discharge.



Bingo!

His voting record will carry him to the presidency or keep him from it....kinda simple huh?
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« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2004, 03:16:12 PM »
"To insult him because you disagree with his politics is petty and telling."
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« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2004, 03:27:20 PM »
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Rude, I had no opinion on Bush at election time. He seemd to me to be a puppet but then so did Gore.  So I did not vote for either.

 However in two years time I have come to regret seeing Bush elected. So  yes you're right.  And FWIW I'll accept almost any other candidate, from literally any other political party, over him in 2004.    Almost.  For IMO Kerry is a lousy choice as he's similar to Bush, in that he's a "career" politician, and Kerry voted favorably in 2001 on the legislation that empowered Bush.


Well, I'll tell ya what....I can respect your opinion of Bush even tho I do not agree with it, unlike the Euro's that pipe up from time to time...to them, I offer a great big tough titty, get over it and mind your own business kinda thingie.

That's one of the things I love about my country...we have the freedom to spout off because it was earned....the socialists earned ditka....they get to mouth off for free and truthfully, by Sponge Bob Boxers get tied in a knot when I read their crap on this board.

to Westy... to the Dems...let's get it on and elect a president!!!

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« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2004, 03:32:11 PM »
That's more than a fair wrap up.  :)    

   Rude

Westy
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