question la7-tempest

[rod367th]

La7 came out after tempest and  made in less numbers. But for some reason la7 not perked and tempest is. also la-7 had 600 rounds cannon with 3 gun  option but only 375 with 3 gun option where ever built.



 Was never big on la-7 whines but if tempest perked why shouldn't la-7 since it was out in smaller numbers and not flying untill early spring 44?

[LWACE]

I agree fully rod, 1 thing though, 600rds? why we only get 450? La7 is a mystery to me, why its not perkd some amazes me completely.

[Pepe]

Perks work to control overusage of any particular plane, with no regards to history, numbers, weapons, etc.

Having said that, I *think* (I'm lazy to check the facts, so I talk only based on my personal MA perspective ) La-7 and Spit IX have long and wide earned merits to receive a low value perk "a la" Chog  . Arguably N1K2 too.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by rod367th
La7 came out after tempest and  made in less numbers. But for some reason la7 not perked and tempest is. also la-7 had 600 rounds cannon with 3 gun  option but only 375 with 3 gun option where ever built.



 Was never big on la-7 whines but if tempest perked why shouldn't la-7 since it was out in smaller numbers and not flying untill early spring 44?

The 3 cannon version did not have 600 rounds it had a maximum capacity of 150 rnds per gun and very often only carried 120 rnds per gun.

As indeed the two cannon (max capacity 200 rnds per gun) very often carried 170 rnds per gun.

The first (2 cannon) La7's saw action in July 44 (but the bulk were introduced in Sept) which seems to be about the same time or slightly earlier than Tempests were being moved over to Northern France/Belgium.

Over 5000 La7's were built and over 3500 saw action albeit that a very small number of the 3 cannon variant saw action.

I would agree that the 2 cannon version is much more representative yet rarely used. There would be a good arguement for perking the 3 cannon version (as the Chog is perked) if the two variants could be split.  La7(44) & La7(45)

Even so the la7 is still not the most popular ride in the game and whilst its ability to disengage and run away annoys folk it does not over balance it either IMO.

[lasersailor184]

I agree that the La7 should be a low point perk plane.  Maybe a little more then F4u-c

[Ghosth]

Well if the la7 MUST be perked, by all means perk the 3 gun version.

I prefer the 2 20mm shvaks anyway.


As to why the tempest is perked, try.
A late war release
B speed deamon
C 4 x 20mm hispano's & more ammo than tiffy.
D many ord options

While the la7 is also a speed freek it does NOT have 4 x 20mm hizukas.

Has very limited ord options & no DT's.

Has only 3 20mm, which must be considerably closer to do the same damage.

Last but not least the la7 above 12 k is not near as much of a threat. Above 16k ponys, jugs, & 109's eat it.

[Urchin]

Ghost... honestly... who is going to use a Tempest for hauling bombs or rockets?  Nobody.  So the fact that it CAN carry them is kind of irrelevant.

[Furball]

Because tempest is british.

Ok, lets look at the P51-D mustang: -

A late war release check!
B speed deamon check!
C 6 x sniper rifle hizooka's check!
D many overload ord options check!
E American so it nullifies all other points check!

[Shane]

Originally posted by Furball
Because tempest is british.

Ok, lets look at the P51-D mustang: -

A late war release check!
B speed deamon check!
C 6 x sniper rifle hizooka's check!
D many overload ord options check!
E American so it nullifies all other points check!

you have your  tiffy...  give us the p51-h and then we're talking perkies..

[Furball]

P-51H wasn't even ready in time to see action in europe.

Add it to the list along with the P.80, Do-335, Go-229 and other 'what if?' planes.

The P-51H was too late to see action in the war in Europe. By the late summer of 1945, some P-51Hs had been issued to a few operational units. These units were in the process of working up to operational status when the war in the Pacific ended with the Japanese surrender. None had the opportunity to see any combat. At the time of V-J Day, 555 P-51Hs had rolled off the Inglewood production lines. The last P-51H rolled off the production line in 1946.

[SirLoin]

All those late year planes should be perked..Like you can't afford 2 points?...Wonder what would happen to gameplay..

[MotorOil]

Tempest hizookas have better balistics, higher rate of fire and feel like they have more hitting power than the Russian cannons in the La7.  Also Tempest has a nice cruising speed.  As mentioned earlier La7 sucks hind tit above 10k.

[DYGCaps]

Yes, La7 should be perked, but will most likely never happen...

Bout time for hitech to come in and declare this an official la7 whine eh??

[rod367th]

Originally posted by Tilt
The 3 cannon version did not have 600 rounds it had a maximum capacity of 150 rnds per gun and very often only carried 120 rnds per gun.

As indeed the two cannon (max capacity 200 rnds per gun) very often carried 170 rnds per gun.

The first (2 cannon) La7's saw action in July 44 (but the bulk were introduced in Sept) which seems to be about the same time or slightly earlier than Tempests were being moved over to Northern France/Belgium.

Over 5000 La7's were built and over 3500 saw action albeit that a very small number of the 3 cannon variant saw action.

I would agree that the 2 cannon version is much more representative yet rarely used. There would be a good arguement for perking the 3 cannon version (as the Chog is perked) if the two variants could be split.  La7(44) & La7(45)



 Tilt facts were from russian factory drawings  all 20mm's 2 gun and 3 gun could carry 200 rounds per gun.






Even so the la7 is still not the most popular ride in the game and whilst its ability to disengage and run away annoys folk it does not over balance it either IMO.

[T1loady]

How many kills did you end up getting today? Atleast 10 from me..