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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2004, 05:54:48 PM »
Would the gigant holes made by thae airplaners provide air?

Kappa your respnse to drediock is great, the second somebody with real knowledge oof the things you recite comes here and disproves or contests yiour spewage you attack him and make fun of him..  Makes this post of yours quite funny.

"I do not mean to.. But I do bring intellect to the discussion.. Unlike many who can only mock, be cynical, or basically call me an idiot for trying to understand."

Anyway I know it wont open your eyes or anything, but I thought it a good idea to point out the contrast nicely...

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« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2004, 06:26:15 PM »
so now the little liberal weenie is calling me a fascist?

any of you guys ever use a blow torch... the ones fueled by kerosene or white gas?  

slo... yeah.. it was as "magic" as all them pristene bullets I could dig out or find laying in/on the bank of the local shooting range at the hundred yard line... and, it was 3 shots in 8 seconds and nothing spectacular.

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« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2004, 06:33:51 PM »
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would be greatly appreciated if you would refrain from making attacks or insults to me and reserve your insults if you simply must make them to those who have attacked you. Drediock


my apologies. I do not believe I insulted you and it was not my intent but that is irrelevant if you believe that I did. Again, I apologize......

Simple question.. Where was all this excess air to come from in the elevator shafts to supply this furnace? Is all the air to flow upward leaving a vaccum at the base of the towers? Is that possible? Air to rush to hi-pressure from low-pressure? I think not.. Low pressure air does not rush to hi pressure air.. Rather the opposite.... Heat as we all know produces hi-pressure..

Did you mistakenly put CO2 instead of O2 in your statements? Carbon-monoxide extinquishes fires.. It does not build them.

You do however need 02 to operate a kiln and blacksmith have been using them for centuries. However, for centuries without the ability to use pure O2, kilns did not burn hot enough to produce steel..

Another point is this argument is not so relevant in the second tower hit as it was struck in the corner of the building. Most probably leaving most of the interior of the building intact..
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« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2004, 06:34:51 PM »
Another well documented fact of the towers buring was the black smut belching from within them. Black smoke indicates a fire that is almost extinquish, starved for O2, or of very low heat. Black smoke is the presence of unburnt carbon within the smoke itself. A fire burning at the temperatures required for failure would not produce black smoke..

Tilt, I will get back to you on your last post as I can not at this time make sense the math used and I am too ignorant at this moment to call it into question...

One question though, is your 800C and 760C temps assumed ambient temperatures??
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« Reply #139 on: February 04, 2004, 06:51:54 PM »
"to call it into question"

So you are in it for the sake of arguing? You ask people for evidince primarily with the intent to call it into question, not to consider it as valid counteragument?

Nice, at least you are being honest now....
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« Reply #140 on: February 04, 2004, 06:52:22 PM »
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Kappa your respnse to drediock is great, the second somebody with real knowledge oof the things you recite comes here and disproves or contests yiour spewage you attack him and make fun of him.. Makes this post of yours quite funny. grunherz


I find it funny your idea of 'real knowledge' as his statments were no more factual than mine.. His statments were based on no fact and were all assumptions yet you consider them 'real knowledge'......... thats not bias is it grun...
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« Reply #141 on: February 04, 2004, 06:55:11 PM »
That is intresting info Kappa.  Thanks for posting it!!
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« Reply #142 on: February 04, 2004, 06:55:17 PM »
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"to call it into question"

So you are in it for the sake of arguing? You ask people for evidince primarily with the intent to call it into question, not to consider it as valid counteragument?

Nice, at least you are being honest now....
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you could not begin to explain what he typed grun.. yet you would accept it for fact since it is a retort against me.. And, I thank him for it.. something real... much more than you could ever offer..
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« Reply #143 on: February 04, 2004, 06:55:41 PM »
What would you consider real knowlege?  The stuff on your conspiracy websites?

Speaking of bias, arent you the guy who is convinced that WTc was not brought down by airliner terror attacks but by some vast consipiracy where the buildings were rigged with explosives before hans and the airliners just happend to hit..

Oh no wait, I'm wrong, thats not bias thats called paranoid insanity...

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« Reply #144 on: February 04, 2004, 06:57:57 PM »
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That is intresting info Kappa.  Thanks for posting it!!


Which part?

Sincerity is not seen much here so you will understand if I'm not sure exactly how to take that.. but thanks, I think.. 8)
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« Reply #145 on: February 04, 2004, 07:00:26 PM »
Oh no wait, I'm wrong, thats not bias thats called paranoid insanity...

You could be right.. But then again by your thinking Iraq will attack us any day now..
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« Reply #146 on: February 04, 2004, 07:04:06 PM »
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you could not begin to explain what he typed grun.. yet you would accept it for fact since it is a retort against me.. And, I thank him for it.. something real... much more than you could ever offer..


Why do you suppose that? I'm a college educated 23 year old (ok degree in a few months), I have studied physics, calculus, chemistry some engineering heck even computer programming at very fine schools. None of the info here is beyond my eduactuion.

But I do like that you posted this, beacuxe it really gets back to heart of who you are. You claim to be the "open minded" guy but anyone who doesnnt acquiesse and swallow your diatriabies you immediatly call ignorant or stupid or whatever.

I hope ure trolling.
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« Reply #147 on: February 04, 2004, 07:05:21 PM »
un - F |_| C K ing - believable.

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Either way there has to be adequate ventilation in the shaft in order for the elevator to work freely.and properly without letting out or sucking in huge blasts of air whenever the doors opened
Try plugging up the business end of a syringe and see how well the plunger moves back and forth.


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Simple question.. Where was all this excess air to come from in the elevator shafts to supply this furnace? Is all the air to flow upward leaving a vaccum at the base of the towers? Is that possible?


AHA!  I see the problem - reading comprehension.  

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I guess sanctimonious conspiracy theorists are good for a laugh now and then, but this thread is getting more rediculous by the post.
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« Reply #148 on: February 04, 2004, 07:06:16 PM »
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Oh no wait, I'm wrong, thats not bias thats called paranoid insanity...

You could be right.. But then again by your thinking Iraq will attack us any day now..


By my thinking?

But anyway, the only respectable escape for you from this mess yiu created lies in what you just said.  Again I hope its just a troll.

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« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2004, 07:29:27 PM »
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I dont want your respect.. I dont care for respect from anyone on this board.. Thats simply silly..  I typed nothing bad to him..


Then stop whining like a little girl when people don't take you seriously. Seriously.