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Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2004, 04:52:19 PM »
And while your at it, do a Yahoo search on Louie Cacchioli and see what kind of hits you get.

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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2004, 04:57:56 PM »
I read the report, makes some interesting points.  As for attacking kappa, it seems americans are all for freedom of speech when it suits them, why cant kappa bring this point up without being attacked?
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2004, 05:02:38 PM »
According to my references, the F-15's top speed is 1875 mph though my main aircraft encyclopedia shows 1650 mph.  According to the article, the aircraft were carrying extra gas which would mean external fuel tanks. This would further incumber their top speed.

How long can an F-15 on Full afterburner fly before exhausting its fuel?
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2004, 05:05:06 PM »
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I read the report, makes some interesting points.  As for attacking kappa, it seems americans are all for freedom of speech when it suits them, why cant kappa bring this point up without being attacked?


Oh stop.

A person is free to speak their minds as much as they like in America.

We're exercising our right to free speech by calling these claims ridiculous.

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2004, 05:07:28 PM »
yep, claiming they are ridiculous is fine, its the personal attacks i was referring to.
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2004, 05:34:27 PM »
Here's my numbers...

The F-15C carries 13,455 lbs fuel internal
11,895 ext.

At full afterburner, each engine will burn .7 lbs per fuel per hour per lb of thrust.

Each engine is rated at 23,930 lbs of thrust at full burner.

So I've got the plane eating 33,502lbs of thrust per hour.

or 558 lbs per minute.

So if all the above is correct, would'nt the F-15 be tanks dry in just over 24 mins?

Unless they were carrying external tanks, the earlier mentioned article seems highly unlikely.

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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2004, 05:35:05 PM »
ok, i have the real story from a un-named source...

the boosh/chaney/halburton/oil cartel some how got control of 4 airplanes and crashed them into buildings that were loaded with high explosive charges to bring down the buildings, after waiting some time after the colisions to set a alibi, they set off the charges and brought down the buildings. the boosh/chany/etc then used that as an excuse to invade iraq to grab it's oil in spite of the heroic efforts of france and germany to defend iraq...

did i get it right kappa????

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« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2004, 06:03:40 PM »
Muck, I'm not sure what your driving at and your figures are probably correct. I have not done the calculations as I'm not sure what you are trying to disprove. But the paragraphs you are citing only call for 5 mins of afterburner flight. They are basically saying that 2 F-15s, by reports of the pilots, were possibly on scene with the ability to stop the second plane...

Furthermore, the paragraphs cited by you call into question the timeline given by Col. Alan Scott of NORAD and the pilot's own account of their speed. Adding further question to that day.......

I'm not sure how you are reading it or what you are trying to say...
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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2004, 06:10:04 PM »
To be honest, Kappa, I did not read much of the articles. The only things we can prove or disprove are hard physical facts. Thats why I'm exploring the F-15 angle. There are constants here I can calculate.

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« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2004, 06:12:55 PM »
Agreed... But the article talks of the time it would take an F-15 to fly the 153 miles to NYC and estimated that time to be 5-6mins at 'full blower' which the pilot said was his speed...
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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2004, 06:15:41 PM »
Skuzzy please ban Kappa from the BBS, he wont take it bad at all. Seriously it will just help him prove that these conspiracy ideas are being supressed amd that will make him happy!!!!
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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2004, 06:17:12 PM »
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Skuzzy please ban Kappa from the BBS, he wont take it bad at all. Seriously it will just help him prove that these conspiracy ideas are being supressed amd that will make him happy!!!!


Very patriotic and american of you grunherz....
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2004, 06:22:00 PM »
I'm just trying to make you happy kappa. And you know getting banned would make you very happy, then yu could go to another BBS saying that "I was banned for posting this info - LOOKEEE HERE"

That would be a win-win for everyone.

We wouldnt have to put up with your insane posts any more.

And you would have a lot more evidence that thsi is indeed an evil conspiracy that is being supressed by DA MAN!!!

WIN-WIN BABY!!!

Whats more neighborly and american thatn that?

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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2004, 06:24:43 PM »
No one is forcing you to read or post grunherz.. If you choose not to attempt thought on what I've posted, by all means stay in your own little world for both of us..
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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2004, 06:27:41 PM »
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No one is forcing you to read or post grunherz.. If you choose not to attempt thought on what I've posted, by all means stay in your own little world for both of us..


Thankfully the little world I live in isnt your sad deluded maniac life where you dont think the airplanes had anything to do with 911 collapses....

I do like threads because they are good opportunity to ridicule you. You bring out the bad in me.... :lol