A reason for pause...

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Originally posted by Kieran
I can see why you are struggling to understand FEMA's report, as you don't understand simple english. I don't have to attempt to make you look foolish, you're doing a good job all on your own.

Let me help you with your english though.

See Spot.
See Spot run.
Run Spot, run.

Get back with me when you can read it without help. Until then, I'll speak plainer to you.

FEMA no say they not have ideas.

FEMA say it no can say exact reason.

Kappa no read gud.

Stop twisting what I say.. FEMA gives fire as the possible reason for #7 falling..

When I say I can not except no reason as reason.. I mean no conclusive reason. Stop twisting my words kieran.

[Kieran]

When I say I can not except no reason as reason.. I mean no conclusive reason. Stop twisting my words kieran.

Try putting your words in standard english then.

Do you mean "You cannot accept no reason as a reason"?

Do you mean "You cannot except (exclude) no reason as a reason"?

There's that double negative thingy too, and since I cannot be sure if you know the difference between saying it correctly or not, yeah, there's room to debate exactly what it is you're trying to say.

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kieran your like that ***** dog that just keep coming back. Not sure where your real home is or where you belong. Its sad to see you debilitate like this. This is all you have? You turn this into an english debate and comment of my lack of reading power? How about you learn to read yourself.. How about this from my last post you moron:

A governmental investigation has never let no conclusive reason be reason when all the evidence was at one time right infront of it stand.

I understand that these tactics are at the extreme of your ability. I understand your ignorance. I understand you to be weak. I understand your stupidity. I understand. You dont have to convince me more than five times a day kieran.. Now go away and attempt an english critique to the english major. I have never claimed to be a good writer. I dont judge folk by their grammatical short comings. So, kieran, since you prove again and again that you can offer nothing, please go away..

[Kieran]

Let's see if your limited english understands this sentence then...

"How much taxpayer money should be spent on searching for a conclusive answer for this event, especially when there is no reasonable cause to suspect additional foul play?"

Simple, isn't it? If there is no reason to suspect domestic conspiracies, then the time and money spent should be sufficient to conclude the general cause for the collapse of ALL buildings were the airliners. Even if it cannot be ascertained what the definitive cause was for the collapse of #7, it does not follow FEMA has no idea, nor are uncomfortable with their investigation.

You have alluded, hinted, and indirectly stated there is a coverup of some sort. I am not putting words in your mouth, you are saying it.

[Rude]

Originally posted by Kieran
This is intellect?

This is reasoning?

You don't think you insulted Drei?

You're full of yourself, you don't have the courage to admit you feel the whole 9-11 event was a total conspiracy by our government, and you cannot bring yourself to admit you are being smashed by people such as Drei and Tilt who obviously do have a fair amount of expertise in their respective areas and aren't relying on the words of others (aka fringe websites) to shore their arguments.

My comments to you stand, and you will be outed. I know you hoped to build an unstoppable case based on logic, but it can be boiled down to simply these two cases:

A. Bombs were used to destroy building #7. If so, this means whoever planted the bombs knew of the 9-11 attack beforehand, and only the government could have. If they had been terrorist bombs (something you've already hinted you believe were domestic terrorists) it would still require govenment involvement. Any way you slice it, if #7 was rigged, the government was involved.

B. In an event unprecedented in history, two airliners collided with the two tallest man-made structures on earth, and the results were catastrophic and not wholely predictable by physics. Too many factors were involved to ever fully calculate to an absolute degree of certainty what the results should have been, or exactly how the events should have occured. As a result, we don't fully understand what happened for sure.

Which is more plausible... which one...

Look, I'll stop when you finally grow a pair and come out and admit you believe the Bush administration was behind the attack. Or directly deny you believe it. Halfway crap and saying "I don't know, I don't know" won't cut it, because the story you are trying so hard to sell has no other possible ending.

Keiren...cut him some slack man...he's young.

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Originally posted by Rude
Keiren...cut him some slack man...he's young.

lol cut me some slack? cause im young?  lmao O how ideas of people change with time, no doubt...

[Furious]

As an architect reading this thread, I have to say it's pretty damn funny.

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Originally posted by Furious
As an architect reading this thread, I have to say it's pretty damn funny.

Really? What type of architecture?Have you had any designs built? I've worked with a few architects.

Do you have any input on Building #7?? What are your thoughts on it? Have you read any of it? Have you watched video of it? Do you care to?

[GRUNHERZ]

Kappa why do you think video of WTC7 makes it seem likely bombs were used?

Are you surprised the building didnt topple over to one side? Thats probably the least likely thing to happend considering gravity will be the dominant force and it will want to come straight down.  Imagine how much enery it takes to push a building sideways.  My guess is the only way it would tople would be if the damage was really low to the ground and literally cut off more than half of the bulding paralell to its long side.  Even then  I'd think that the enormous weight of the rest of the building would just crush the remaing structure and fall straight down before it would overcome inertia laterally and tip over.

[hblair]

Good point Grunherz. Well what do ya think now kappa? Have they convinced you that it was just an honest old fashioned terrorist attack? or do you think there may still be more to it?