Question. The film in USA.

[Estel]

I want to ask USA forum members.
There is a film named "Edges of the Lord". It's about children in WW2 time Poland. The mostly part of actors and staff is american and GB. Including Osment (Artificial Intelligence).
From many people I heard, that this movie wasn't shown in USA and sometimes I heard that this film is prohibitied to show in USA.
Is it true or not? If this movie is really prohibitied, than I want to understand why. BTW it's interesting, why it wasn't shown. As I know it was specially edited and translated for USA.

[Sikboy]

It's not prohibited, the producers at Miramax just don't think that it will pull in enough money to justify a theatrical release would be my guess.

It's rumored to be going straight to video here in the states.

-Sik

[gofaster]

The film is not prohibited.  There is not enough interest in the film to be worth the trouble to sell in theatres.  So, it will probably be sent to video/DVD.

Osment is not a "big name" star.  His last film "Secondhand Lions" was not a hit.  It made ok money, but was not a smash hit.  For "Edges of Lord", WW2 Poland does not interest many Americans.  The chances of the film being a success are small.

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by gofaster
WW2 Poland does not interest many Americans.  The chances of the film being a success are small.

The Pianist was based in Poland....

[ra]

Offhand, I can't think of a film which has ever been prohibited in the US.  Commercial interests determine if a film will be released in theaters, not political ones.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Hawklore
The Pianist was based in Poland....

And so we have filled our quota

-Sik

[ravells]

Wasn't Schindler's list based in Poland too?

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by ravells
Wasn't Schindler's list based in Poland too?

That would give us our 1 successful Polish WWII Movie per 10 years ratio  I guess

-Sik

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Hawklore
The Pianist was based in Poland....

.. and was made by a small film studio. The film didn't get widespread notice until Brody won his Oscar.  The film earned $111,261 on its opening day.  "Catch Me If You Can" earned $30,082,000.  "Chicago" got $2,074,929 and the re-release of "Lion King" got $1,825,849.  Mainstream interest wasn't there, and I don't foresee Osment getting an Oscar anytime soon (Caine and Duval certainly can, though).

[Munkii]

Originally posted by ra
Offhand, I can't think of a film which has ever been prohibited in the US.  Commercial interests determine if a film will be released in theaters, not political ones.

There was one pulled from the shelves in Oklahoma, it was based on WW2.  Supposedly had child pornography in it, sorry don't remember the name.

[gofaster]

This might make a better basis for a movie in the US about Poland.

Pole who spied on communists for CIA dies in Tampa
By Associated Press
Published February 12, 2004

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TAMPA - A Polish communist-era spy who had been living a secret life in the United States reportedly died Tuesday in Tampa.

Col. Ryszard Kuklinski, a Polish army officer who spied on his country for the CIA, had a stroke and died at a military hospital in Tampa, longtime friend Jozef Szaniawski said.

For security reasons, officials from Washington, D.C. to Tampa, released little to no information about 73-year-old Kuklinski on Wednesday.

Kuklinski's family lived in hiding for years because of threats on his life. Both of his sons were killed in mysterious accidents.

One of Kuklinski's sons died in the United States in a car crash, the other in a sailing mishap. Unanswered questions surround both deaths, and many Poles believe they were carried out by agents of the Soviet secret police, the KGB.

CIA spokesman Mark Mansfield would only confirm that Kuklinski died in Florida. Officials at both Tampa Bay veterans affairs hospitals, Bay Pines Medical Center in St. Petersburg and James Haley Veterans Hospital in Tampa, said Kuklinski wasn't a patient, as did MacDill Air Force Base officials.

A Tampa General Hospital spokesman said their records showed no patient with Kuklinski's name. And a spokesman for U.S. Sen. Bob Graham, who used to sit on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Graham's office had no information about Kuklinski's death.

CIA Director George Tenet hailed Kuklinski as "a true hero of the Cold War," and former president of Poland Lech Walesa said he had "achieved great things" despite being seen as a traitor by some of his countrymen.

Kuklinski was born June 13, 1930, in Warsaw and served as a liaison officer between the Polish military and the Soviet Army from 1976-81.

From behind the Iron Curtain, he passed some 35,000 pages of Warsaw Pact secrets to the CIA, telling them about the communist government's plan to impose martial law in 1981 and launch a bloody crackdown on the pro-democracy Solidarity movement.

Some Poles still regard Kuklinski as a traitor, while others hail him as a hero.

"He was a spy for the right cause. He achieved great things," said Walesa, who founded Solidarity. "Few people would have the courage to do this - he risked his life. These were special times."

Walesa, however, refused to pardon Kuklinski when he was president from 1990 to 1995.

Kuklinski fled the country weeks before martial law was imposed in December 1981, and the government seized his house and other property.

"This passionate and courageous man helped keep the Cold War from becoming hot, providing the CIA with precious information upon which so many critical national security decisions rested," Tenet said Wednesday in a written statement. "He did so for the noblest of reasons - to advance the sacred causes of liberty and peace in his homeland and throughout the world."

Kuklinski was sentenced to death by Poland's former communist government in 1984. He visited his homeland for the first time since fleeing in May 1998, months after a court cleared him of the treason charges.

Kuklinski repeatedly said he wanted to return to live in Poland after the fall of communism in 1989.

He is survived by his wife, Joanna, who lived with him in Washington, and a grandson, Michal.

"It is in great measure due to the bravery and sacrifice of Col. Kuklinski that his own native Poland, and the other once-captive nations of Central and Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, are now free," Tenet said.

[Makarov9]

Originally posted by Munkii
There was one pulled from the shelves in Oklahoma, it was based on WW2.  Supposedly had child pornography in it, sorry don't remember the name.

The Tin Drum

Saw it on Showtime a long time ago. Very odd movie. About a kid during the war who gets tramatized and stops growing old.  The kid has "sex" with an older  teenage girl. That's why it was banned.

[fd ski]

Thanks Estel, haven't heard about it but it sounds interesting.

Pianist was truly an excellent movie, not suprized at all that it won Oscars...

[ravells]

Tin Drum

Must be based on the Gunther Grass novel of the same name.

Ravs

[Estel]

Originally posted by fd ski
Thanks Estel, haven't heard about it but it sounds interesting.

Pianist was truly an excellent movie, not suprized at all that it won Oscars...

Np. I just can repeate some people who said about this movie: this film is not for children, it's about them.
I don't know what dose it mean, but it have "R" mark for USA. What it is it? Something like do_not_look_if_you_are_below_ 16?

Really the screen story is very sad and hard. And there is no hollywood happyend. There are very strange points of view onto life. And a deadly game began by priest wich ended tragycally. So, I think, you'll have a good spend of time looking this film.

Sorry for my english - I'm a bit drunk today.