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Offline miko2d

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« on: February 13, 2004, 12:45:47 PM »
Please answer those questions without doing a search.

 Dodge City is considered the wildest place of the Wild Wild West.

 Would you care to estimate the number of murders commited in that city in its most violent year.

 How about estimating an average murder rate in that town during the period of 1876–1885?

 miko

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2004, 12:47:33 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2004, 12:49:16 PM »
Around 200

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2004, 12:54:10 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2004, 12:56:55 PM »
I see Miko's been digging into the Economist archives again.

Link to the story.

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"The big industrial cities back East were actually far more violent than even the most notorious cowboy town. Robert Dykstra writes that 'during its most celebrated decade as a tough cattle town, only 15 persons died violently in Dodge City, 1876-85, for an average of just 1.5 killings per cowboy season.' Towns such as Tombstone (in Arizona) and Dodge City (in Kansas) had very low murder rates, mainly because drovers had their guns confiscated at the town limits. Not so in the East. In 1872 the Missouri Republican, for example, called New York a 'murderer’s paradise' and criticised its 'chronic indifference' in the face of 'the murdering business [that] is carried on with impunity.'"

Oops, did I just look that up instead of guessing?

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2004, 12:59:20 PM »
This is what started the brawls in Dodge City.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2004, 01:12:33 PM »
Not very much as Wild West is hollywood invention.
Bis endlich der Fiend am Boden liegt.
Bis Bishland bis Bishland bis Bishland wird besiegt!

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2004, 01:16:44 PM »
Historian Richard Shenkman:  in Dodge City there were just five killings in 1878, the most homicidal year in the town's Frontier history.

Dodge City saw 15 people die violently from 1876–1885—an average of 1.5 per year.

Deadwood, South Dakota and Tombstone, Arizona (home of the O.K. Corral), during their worst years of violence saw four and five murders respectively.

All the big cattle towns of Kansas combined saw a total of 45 murders during the period of 1870-1885.

According to Dykstra and Richard M. Brown, while the Kansas code gave mayors the power to call a vigilante group from all the men in the town who ranged in ages from 18–50, it seems, at least in Kansas, that it was rarely done. In a span of 38 years, Kansas had only 19 vigilante movements that accounted for 18 deaths. In addition, between 1876 and 1886, no one was lynched or hanged illegally in Dodge City.

 If anyone is wondering about the anarcho-capitalism and whether it is synonymous with lack of order, violence and chaos, there is hardly a better example of a functioning anarcho-capitalist society than the American West of the frontiere peripod.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2004, 01:29:16 PM »
But everyone had GUNS!!!!!!!!!1

and you had to earn your living or STARVE!!!!

thats bad!
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2004, 01:31:01 PM »
Bloody Kansaswasn't so bloody.

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2004, 01:33:26 PM »
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If anyone is wondering about the anarcho-capitalism and whether it is synonymous with lack of order, violence and chaos,

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Yes, this keeps me up nights. ;)

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2004, 01:35:03 PM »
Don't worry - we'll be back to our old anarcho-capitalism ways when the oil runs out and the major industrial centers have been leveled by nukes.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2004, 01:39:50 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2004, 01:43:05 PM »
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If anyone is wondering about the anarcho-capitalism and whether it is synonymous with lack of order, violence and chaos, there is hardly a better example of a functioning anarcho-capitalist society than the American West of the frontiere peripod.


That's because you're reading has a liberal bias.
The American Indians were Terrorists and hethens at best!

If Dubya was in charge of Dodge City... those 1.95 deaths would have been out sourced to New Mexico!

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2004, 03:14:39 PM »
The ONLY people who have the RIGHT to talk about Dodge City Kansas are he ones that have been there ;)


miko you should go there and visit sometime, being one on them there city folk they might not take kindly to ya but they would treat you with respect.