Fly what you wanna fly

[Pyemia]

I've been a customer of HTC for about 7 - 8 months.  Now during this time i've flown all the aircraft available at one time or another.  My favorites are the P38 and the Typhoon.  I don't fly these aircraft much anymore in the MA. Not because I don't want to but simply because I don't have the patience required anymore.

Now i'm not Mandoble or Citabria, I've never had a 50 kill sortie and I don't practice lead turns on the motorway.  I'm average at best.  

My motivation for creating this post is this.  There are some planes in AH which will get me almost every time when i'm in a Typhoon or P38.  The thing is,  all of these planes are unperked while most of the perked ones I can deal with easily.

Now i'm all for "fly what you wanna fly, don't worry about what the other guy fly's" except when what the other guys fly's prevents me from flying what I wanna fly.  

Now a lot of you will say "learn some ACM" or try to say that these planes are not as dangerous as I believe.  

If that was true, given the amount of time i've spent in the Tiffie in the last 7 months, should'nt I have, at least a small chance of winning vs these aircraft.  I certainly do 1 vs 1 against most of the others but not these particular ones.

Now my point is, our philosophy of "fly what you want to fly, don't worry about what the other guy fly's" is kind of jaded.  

Given that we all pay our subscription, should'nt we be able to all fly our own choice of aircraft.

Isn't this what the perk system was introduced to prevent>  If not, then should'nt there be some discussion on whether the perk system could prevent this plane dominating other planes thing from occurring?

In case your wondering, its not the Spitfire or the N1K, its the La7 and the Yak.


If anyone disagree's with me about this, i'll be happy to meet you in the DA for 3 rounds in a either of these planes vs your P38 or Typhoon.

Pyemia AKA Zygote

 

[Toad]

Originally posted by Pyemia:
...Now i'm all for "fly what you wanna fly, don't worry about what the other guy fly's" except when what the other guys fly's prevents me from flying what I wanna fly...  

...Given that we all pay our subscription, should'nt we be able to all fly our own choice of aircraft.

Pyemia AKA Zygote

No offense intended, but you have just defined the problem with your own contradiction.

You want to be able to fly what you want to fly while restricting what the other paying customer wants to fly...while saying that a paying customer should be able to fly what he wants to fly.  

...and unfortunately, there are no absolutes in the MA. Any plane can shoot down any other plane, given the right situation.

One has to fly to his aircraft's particular strengths while exploiting the target's weaknesses. Not easy to do and not always possible... but that's the fun of it for me.

Much as I hate Nebraska Football (Jayhawk grad) their motto encapsulates my approach to AH:

Over the Southwest Entry to the NU Stadium:

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed of the glory."

Yep, that's why I play AH.

As a side note, the stadium is dedicated to war veterans. Over the Northeast Entry is a particularly poignant (for me anyway) inscription:

"Their Lives they held their country’s trust; they kept its faith; they died its heroes."

[Animal]

nigga please.. this is a variation of the same argument that has been going on since the first spit took off.
if you are not having fun flying those planes, dont fly em. I really love the p38. and i get frustrated, and when i do, i vent by taking a nik, and racking a lot of kills. then i'm happy and fly my dear plane again.

this thread is gonna go uphill, and remember guys!! its always funny to see tards try to ice-skate uphill!!

[Blue Mako]

Zyg/Pye,

You are allowed to fly your favourite planes, no-one is stopping you.  What you are suggesting is that other people not be allowed to fly their favourite rides so that you may survive longer in yours...  Toad said it...  Does anyone else think that's a little bit of a contradiction?

Quit worrying about what other people are flying, it makes little difference if you fly your plane smart and to it's strengths.  If La7's and Yaks are handing you your tail then don't engage them.  And don't think try the "I see them all the time and always get pounced on by 100 of them" line, if they are bouncing you then it doesn't matter what plane you are flying, you are gonna be dead anyway.

If you want to survive in your ride, better start practising your SA techniques and avoid flying where you'll be at a disadvantage.  If you want to furball then expect to get shot down regularly, that's just a fact of the MA.  Surviving a sortie has little to do with your plane choice but lot's to do with your mind set...

[Dago]

Py's post is almost confusing.  I think I read out of it the same as the rest.  He wants to fly differant planes from time to time, but doesnt like the fact that he gets killed trying to dogfight against a better plane.  Is that about right?

What exactly was this all about?

dago

[Voss]

Zyg, I've been killed twice this tour in the Typhoon. Once by a flak and once by a PT boat. Of course, I don't fly it every sortie, and only have 21 kills in it(so far), but I would have to say it's not what you fly. It's how you fly what you fly.

I don't turn fight in a Typhoon. WarDog can do that (I've seen him), but it's not for me.

If you want to learn how to defeat the 'wonder birds,' try them out for a tour or so. The mystique disappears really fast.

[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Voss ]

[Pyemia]

I don't think what I said was a contradiction, more like a catch 22.  

If I fly the Tiffie or P38 at under 15K and meet La7's or Yaks then I will more then likely lose.  These two planes have all the strengths of the Tiffie or P38 but magnified with the exception of guns.  Sure the P38 can flat turn a tiny bit better but all that really does is prolong the slaughter.

Personally i'd rather fight a Temp in either plane then La7 or Yak.  That basically says  it all.

And Voss I do fly the La7, and have flown the Yak quite a bit too.  Yesterday, after my 4th kill in La7, I lost my rudder and aileron to a 190.  I still killed the 190 then got another 11 kills b4 I landed and logged.  I don't believe I could do that in any other plane in AH bar the Yak9U.  Kinda what motivated me to post this thread.  The plane is a super killa imo.

Zygote

[majic]

As far as the La-7 is concerned, its easy:  Come in above 10k.  Most pilots who fly the La-7 know its no good at alt, so they stay lower.  If you have the E-advantage, engage, but don't get into a turn fight.  If the La-7 comes in above you, keep in mind it doesn't turn nearly as well at high speed.  Jink him once and try to disengage, but be aware that it is fast and a good accellerator (sp?).  I don't fly the yak much, so I'm no help there.

[MANDOBLE]

Zig, I really see no way for a P38 to defeat or even survive a Yak9U or a La7, unless with very long range shots or very lucky snapshots. Yaks and Las will out-anything (except gun) you below 20k.

if we talk about 1 vs 1, IMO, the only real (unperked) dangers for a Yak are the spits, Las and Nikkis (perhaps 109G2 also). The only unperked dangers for a La7 are PT boats, M16s, Flaks, B17s, CV ack and the mountains.

About La7 damage, I've seen one with half wing out killing two cons in a row and still maneuvering and running away (smoking forever) from my D9 - AMAZING - (this plane is made of mithril).

A question about La7: Does it have the same engine that La5FN? If so, what in the Earth can explain the difference in performance (specially in acceleration)? CD? Weight?

[Seeker]

"A question about La7: Does it have the same engine that La5FN? If so, what in the Earth can explain the difference in performance (specially in acceleration)? CD? Weight? "

The missing perk points?

[oboe]

Is this a "perk the LA-7" thread in disguise?

Seems strange to me that two planes as different in performance as the MC.202 and the LA-7 cost the same.

[J_A_B]

So, let me get this straight....

Zygote wants to be able to fly whatever he wants, whenever he wants to fly it.  But he doesn't want anyone else to fly the planes that gives HIM trouble.

Well, I'll give him some credit--at least he's not trying to veil the true intent of his post with careful wording.  I can't say I agree with him (nor are many others likely to) but at least he came right out and said it.  No beating around the bush.

J_A_B

[Pepe]

Zyg,

Trying to fite a La (5 or 7) or a Yak under 10k with a FTD is as wrong as trying to fite the same FTD in La (5 or 7) or in Yak, over 15k.

In the fringe (let's say 15k), and co-e I would say it's a draw. The russians can disengage going low and fast, and the american going high.

And I find nothing as capable in a tight spiral climb as a P-38 over 20k. Maybe a Spitfire.

Cheers,

Pepe

[Rude]

The pilot makes the plane...believe anything else and you're kidding yourself.


 

[Octavius]

Originally posted by Pyemia:

If that was true, given the amount of time i've spent in the Tiffie in the last 7 months, should'nt I have, at least a small chance of winning vs these aircraft.  I certainly do 1 vs 1 against most of the others but not these particular ones.

 

You actually do need to *learn* something while flying.  Don't expect to put in the time and just expect to magically gain knowledge.  Sigh, if what you're doing is not working, try something else.  Its obvious to me you haven't tried everything  .  

Seems you're putting your energy into making threads about why you can't get a kill  .  
Learn something, record your fights, learn what you did wrong and what you did right.  


oct out!