Author Topic: Whom shall the democrats nominate? (Read 911 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** February 16, 2004, 03:55:14 PM »

http://slate.msn.com/id/2095158/

Slate speaks. Read the Hutchins analysis. I kept nodding in agreement. Here is the bottom line:

"I'm a single-issue person at present, and the single issue in case you are wondering is the tenacious and unapologetic defense of civilized societies against the intensifying menace of clerical barbarism. If in the smallest doubt about this, I would suggest a vote for the re-election of George Bush, precisely because he himself isn't prey to any doubt on the point. There are worse things than simple mindedness—pseudo-intellectuality, for example. Civil unions for homosexuals, or prescription-drug programs, are not even going to be in second or third place if we get this wrong[/i]

About the author:He joined NPR in 1977 as host and producer of NPR's morning news service.

ra · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2004, 04:26:03 PM »

"Clerical barbarism" is a strange euphemism. Hitchens is usually more direct. "Islamist terrorism" is more accurate and sounds more like the type of term Hitchens would use. Perhaps there are some other religious fanatics looking for nukes?

straffo · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2004, 04:34:50 PM »

I've not read your link Rip but your thread tittle made me think of one (certainly stupid ...) question :

Why is there a primary for the democrats and not for the republicans ?
I thought it was a mandatory step in the american election system ... but as usual I was wrong I think

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2004, 04:44:39 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
I've not read your link Rip but your thread tittle made me think of one (certainly stupid ...) question :

Why is there a primary for the democrats and not for the republicans ?
I thought it was a mandatory step in the american election system ... but as usual I was wrong I think

As an incumbent, Bush has no real competition within the Republican Party. Therefore, one would not expect Republicans to turn out in large numbers for the primary. The results are a forgone conclusion.

Horn · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2004, 04:56:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
As an incumbent, Bush has no real competition within the Republican Party. Therefore, one would not expect Republicans to turn out in large numbers for the primary. The results are a forgone conclusion.

Which is too damn bad. If the repubs ran another decent candidate, he would win. All we Repubs disgusted with Bush and his policies are forced merely to vote against.

h

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2004, 05:06:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Horn
Which is too damn bad. If the repubs ran another decent candidate, he would win. All we Repubs disgusted with Bush and his policies are forced merely to vote against.

h

LOL! Horn trying to pass himself off as a republican. Want me to start quoting you?

Back to the subject Horn. Comment on the paragraph I highlited if you would.

weaselsan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2004, 06:32:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Horn
Which is too damn bad. If the repubs ran another decent candidate, he would win. All we Repubs disgusted with Bush and his policies are forced merely to vote against.

h

As a life long Democrat I am forced to vote for Bush because of the sorry state of affairs of the party, and the 9 morons they gave me to choose from, such a shame.........

john9001 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2004, 06:35:20 PM »

rumor is if dean drops out ralph nadar will pick up the fallen standard and lead all the rightious people to a world of safe cars,clean skys, and world peace, .....kum ba ya

weaselsan · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2004, 06:42:37 PM »

To phrase the matter in another way, I know many people who are much more intelligent than George Bush (even if they do keep saying so themselves) and whom I have heard, over the past decades, talk with perfect seriousness about the prospect of electing Gary Hart, Michael Dukakis, Bill Bradley, or Tom Harkin as president of the United States. Do such smart people really wish that Michael Dukakis had been president when Saddam invaded Kuwait, or when Mikhail Gorbachev began to signal from Moscow? Of course they don't,

Common sense from slate.....Hell just froze over.

Eagler · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2004, 06:55:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Horn
Which is too damn bad. If the repubs ran another decent candidate, he would win. All we Repubs disgusted with Bush and his policies are forced merely to vote against.

h

All we Repubs ...

not this one - this country will be better served with 4 more years of Bush than any other choice being presented

Horn · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2004, 06:55:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LOL! Horn trying to pass himself off as a republican. Want me to start quoting you?

Back to the subject Horn. Comment on the paragraph I highlited if you would.

Be my guest. I voted for the man and was wrong.

I liked his concluding statement:

"Make up your own mind, is my own best recommendation, and put "electability" (once a Dean property, for heaven's sake) to one side. An Edwards-Kerry ticket would be made up of serious men, at least, and this is a test that people and politicians have to pass whether they are looking for votes or not."

As I said, were there another Republican option other than Bush, he would win. The Dems have little to work with and it shows--I will however vote for one of them just to get this farce out of office.

h

1K0N · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2004, 07:00:01 PM »

!!!!!KERRY AND FONDA 2004!!!!!!!!!

Horn · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2004, 07:18:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
All we Repubs ...

not this one - this country will be better served with 4 more years of Bush than any other choice being presented

If you are going to take it out of context, why not just "all"? The statement was: "All we Repubs disgusted with Bush and his policies...."

If GWB is re-elected, your children will be the ones to pay for your blindness.

h

straffo · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2004, 01:37:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
As an incumbent, Bush has no real competition within the Republican Party. Therefore, one would not expect Republicans to turn out in large numbers for the primary. The results are a forgone conclusion.

ok that the conclusion I ended with too.
It's just that like I said in my previous post I assumed it was a mandatory part of you election system (even without other competitors than Bush)

Eagler · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:39:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Horn
If you are going to take it out of context, why not just "all"? The statement was: "All we Repubs disgusted with Bush and his policies...."

If GWB is re-elected, your children will be the ones to pay for your blindness.

h

as I pay for my parents? as their children will pay for theirs??

and the world continues to spin round & round...

for the next 4 years, GW is the best choice for this country - hands down. Be confident, our enemies both abroad and internal, are hoping for his defeat. whose camp does that place you in??..!