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Offline beet1e

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Re: Fighter Rank?
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2004, 10:23:03 AM »
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If I want to fly next tour for fighter rank then what ride should I be in?  I guess what I'm asking is -does the formula for fighter rank take "eny" values into account or should I be in a La-7 next tour?
Yep, the La7 is a good bet for that fighter rank. ;) Why not? It works for Shane! :lol

Also note that about 90% of guys who rank in the top 100 make substantial use of the P51/La7/Spit ix subset. Very few do it in P40/Spit 1a/109E etc. But oh! it's the pilot, not the plane...

... yeah, right. :aok

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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2004, 10:35:27 AM »
beetle i got to 76 in fighter with half of my kills in a hurri1 some tours ago. ;) Was gonna try and have all my fighter kills in a hurri 1 but it just got so boring with some maps.  It was fine at first but when certain maps got rotated it was pointless.  15 mins flying time to get a fight, often it dissipating before you arrive.  It was not fun on some maps at all.

Hmmm....may give it another go when festerMA comes up.:)
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2004, 12:31:32 PM »
Beet1e, why don't you get in an la7 for a tour and see where you place?
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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2004, 12:37:45 PM »
Do what 2/3rds of the high ranked guys do,

Fly no more than ten sorties and land all the kills you can :D

Rank means nothing if you have less than 20 Fighter hours or under 150 sorties, a tour.

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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2004, 12:38:39 PM »
managed to finish at 51 one tour flying fm2.

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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2004, 01:05:38 PM »
I've fought your FM2 phantom.. I believe it.
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2004, 01:27:28 PM »
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Beet1e, why don't you get in an la7 for a tour and see where you place?
No need! I'm happy with the USN planes. :)

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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2004, 01:28:57 PM »
In other words Beet, you have no experience in spending a tour in the la7 so really have no personal knowledge of how such a plane would effect ranking, having never actually performed such tests yourself.
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Re: Re: Fighter Rank?
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2004, 01:42:08 PM »
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Also note that about 90% of guys who rank in the top 100 make substantial use of the P51/La7/Spit ix subset. Very few do it in P40/Spit 1a/109E etc. But oh! it's the pilot, not the plane...

... yeah, right. :aok

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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2004, 01:57:29 PM »
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Originally posted by thrila
beetle i got to 76 in fighter with half of my kills in a hurri1 some tours ago. ;) Was gonna try and have all my fighter kills in a hurri 1 but it just got so boring with some maps.  It was fine at first but when certain maps got rotated it was pointless.  15 mins flying time to get a fight, often it dissipating before you arrive.  It was not fun on some maps at all.

Hmmm....may give it another go when festerMA comes up.:)


I've got to concur with this from personal experience. No plane is a substitute for ACM, gunnery and SA. If a pilot has superb skill in these three areas he could probably rank decently in a golf cart with wings and two 50 cals.

That being said however, it is just natural to fly the best possible plane that suits your particular style in order to even further maximize your effectiveness. Not everyone feels the need to handicap themselves with inferior aircraft relative to the ones their opponents are using. It's fun to do from time to time, but all things considered, most of us just want to kick as much arse as possible. That usually means flying the high performance rides.

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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2004, 04:29:04 PM »
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In other words Beet, you have no experience in spending a tour in the la7 so really have no personal knowledge of how such a plane would effect ranking, having never actually performed such tests yourself.
Urchin nailed it when he said words to this effect a while back: "There's a reason why so many people choose the P51/La7/Spit ix subset of planes, and we all know what that reason is."

You suggested that I fly La7 for a tour. Why don't you fly any non-P51 plane for a tour, and see how you do?

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« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2004, 04:56:33 PM »
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Urchin nailed it when he said words to this effect a while back: "There's a reason why so many people choose the P51/La7/Spit ix subset of planes, and we all know what that reason is."


No I don't enlighten us.  

Maybe hmmm an LA7/51 because I'm tired of all the runstang homos and I'm going to catch them and kill them this time instead of watch them run or how about the bases are so potato peeling far apart that flying anything that can't go 400 MPH is just potato peelin boring...

Maybe a spit, becuase I am a knight and the norm is upping at a base where I am outnumbered 3 to one most of the time and I need something that is nimble and can turn.  

There are many reasons for flying these planes and the people that cry about them should put the pacifier back in their mouths and STFU:D :rofl

For the people that only fly these, well you are missing out on alot of fun that the other planes offer.

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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2004, 05:50:36 PM »
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You suggested that I fly La7 for a tour. Why don't you fly any non-P51 plane for a tour, and see how you do?


Well Beet, would kills in a spitV, 38, or A8 be any different than a 51?
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2004, 06:08:52 PM »
I have flown whole tours in a zeke, and other slow early and mid war planes, but I fly FM2 more than any other, I just like it.  Unlike Zazen, I am a masochist and enjoy seeing if I can win in an inferior plane.  I realize I mostly T n B and have a mediocre K/D.  But I defend capped bases, fight every disadvantaged fight I can get myself into ( must be some "Don Quixote" complex - you know "fight the unbeatable foe").  I have flown P51's for a night or two and killed 20 or 30 to no losses but I just found it BORING.  Fly for rank for a tour or two, fly to survive for awhile, fly to win from the most disadvantaged positions,  try them all and have a ball because in the end that is what I spend my $15 for.

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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2004, 06:14:40 PM »
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Originally posted by Phantom4-Mag33
I have flown whole tours in a zeke, and other slow early and mid war planes, but I fly FM2 more than any other, I just like it.  Unlike Zazen, I am a masochist and enjoy seeing if I can win in an inferior plane.  I realize I mostly T n B and have a mediocre K/D.  But I defend capped bases, fight every disadvantaged fight I can get myself into ( must be some "Don Quixote" complex - you know "fight the unbeatable foe").  I have flown P51's for a night or two and killed 20 or 30 to no losses but I just found it BORING.  Fly for rank for a tour or two, fly to survive for awhile, fly to win from the most disadvantaged positions,  try them all and have a ball because in the end that is what I spend my $15 for.

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Carefull with the stero-types, I've flown every plane in the set except for the La7 and have a positive K/D ratio in all of them (except the 262!?!? I hate jets). Just because I choose not to fly disadvantaged if I can help it doesn't mean I do not have the skill to do it successfully if I choose to. In an arena packed with 500+ people you are going to get into disadvantaged situations enough as it is without going out of your way to get into them. While I do not generally fly many early war rides nowadays I also conscientiously avoid flying the Big 4 (Niki/Spitty/Pony/Lala).

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