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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: February 18, 2004, 07:20:30 PM »
Remember this?

Do you remember this speech?

 

On 17 February 1998, President Clinton delivered a speech at the Pentagon. Excerpts from that speech include the following comments:


The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons.

 

Now, against that background, let us remember the past here. It is against that background that we have repeatedly and unambiguously made clear our preference for a diplomatic solution . . .

 

But to be a genuine solution, and not simply one that glosses over the remaining problem, a diplomatic solution must include or meet a clear, immutable, reasonable, simple standard.

 

Iraq must agree and soon, to free, full, unfettered access to these sites anywhere in the country. There can be no dilution or diminishment of the integrity of the inspection system that UNSCOM has put in place.

 

Now those terms are nothing more or less than the essence of what he agreed to at the end of the Gulf War. The Security Council, many times since, has reiterated this standard. If he accepts them, force will not be necessary. If he refuses or continues to evade his obligations through more tactics of delay and deception, he and he alone will be to blame for the consequences.

 

Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.

 

And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal. And I think every one of you who's really worked on this for any length of time believes that, too. . . .

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2004, 07:33:56 PM »
It's obvious that Bush had already used his infuence as Governor of Texas to pressure U.S. intelligence to fabricate evidence of WMD in Iraq.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2004, 07:38:26 PM »
6 years and 1 day...that would put me in grade 4...so i was probably trying to figure out long division at the time...

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2004, 07:46:09 PM »
WHISTLE IN THE DARK – “Be cheerful or optimistic in a situation that doesn’t warrant cheer or optimism. It is a great temptation to try to cheer oneself up by whistling or singing in a dark and lonely place. Sigmund Freud, in ‘The Problem of Anxiety’ (1925), had a thought on the practice: ‘When the wayfarer whistles in the dark, he may be disavowing his timidity, but he does not see any the more clearer for doing so.’ The notion that one should whistle in difficult circumstances to show that one is not concerned or frightened can be found in Robert Blair’s ‘The Grave; (1742): ‘The Schoolboy…Whistling aloud to bear his Courage up.’” “The Dictionary of Cliches” by James Rogers (Ballantine Books, New York, 1985).

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2004, 07:46:25 PM »
Actually, I remember it exactly.


Too bad everyone I argue with doesn't recall it at all...
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2004, 10:14:53 PM »
Why back then I was calculating how many more days I would have to put up with the Philanderer in Chief. Of course now I just refer to him by his proper title...

IMPEACHED ex-president Clinton

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2004, 10:18:23 PM »
clinton was a liar, i thought we already determined that. So why did bush believe a liar?

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2004, 11:17:57 PM »
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
clinton was a liar, i thought we already determined that. So why did bush believe a liar?


I've never thought of Bush as being very bright. The same as I view anyone else that believed anything Clinton said.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2004, 12:45:00 AM »
Clinton was successful in using diplomacy and the UN in getting rid of WMD in Iraq. He just didnt know it. What was the problem again?
Oh ya. Dubya invaded using WMD as an excuse an you all bought it. Cause your stupid.

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2004, 06:10:06 AM »
Sure, I remember that Rip.  It was cool to have a prez with the ability to read.  Each of the above points were good points.  However, I don't see the concept of invading Iraq on false pretenses.  

But of course, Bush is just your every day, garden variety lying weasel about state security.  Clinton on the other hand was a clear threat to the country by forgetting where he last parked his Johnson.

Thank god Bush was available to save us all from "Johnsonitis."  Too bad Clinton wasn't here to save us from political monsters.  Oh well, maybe next time. :)

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2004, 06:32:46 AM »
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Clinton was successful in using diplomacy and the UN in getting rid of WMD in Iraq. He just didnt know it. What was the problem again?


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You're kidding right?  Please say you're kidding...
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2004, 08:10:10 AM »
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
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You're kidding right?  Please say you're kidding...


Why consider it kidding? Did or does SH have WMD?? Should we credit Bush for SH not having WMD??
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2004, 08:16:05 AM »
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Sure, I remember that Rip.  It was cool to have a prez with the ability to read.  Each of the above points were good points.  However, I don't see the concept of invading Iraq on false pretenses.  

But of course, Bush is just your every day, garden variety lying weasel about state security.  Clinton on the other hand was a clear threat to the country by forgetting where he last parked his Johnson.

Thank god Bush was available to save us all from "Johnsonitis."  Too bad Clinton wasn't here to save us from political monsters.  Oh well, maybe next time. :)

curly


If only a poor memory or faulty zipper had been Clinton's only fault Curly. The little incident with the Chinese and campaign funds is a little harder to overlook. With all those pardons at the end of his reign I guess I should just be thankful that Charles Manson isn't back on the street.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2004, 08:23:36 AM »
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Originally posted by AKIron
If only a poor memory or faulty zipper had been Clinton's only fault Curly. The little incident with the Chinese and campaign funds is a little harder to overlook. With all those pardons at the end of his reign I guess I should just be thankful that Charles Manson isn't back on the street.


Not to mention the fact that he lost tract of the nuclear launch codes "football". Also, he refused to be interupted from golf when a national security issue needed his attention.

Clinton was one big screw up and an asslick all rolled into one fantastic lying, poll riding, anti-military package of spooge.

[edit] I forgot dog killer [edit]

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2004, 09:12:20 AM »
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Originally posted by AKIron
I've never thought of Bush as being very bright. The same as I view anyone else that believed anything Clinton said.


Didn't Bush go to Harvard Business School? What school did you go to AK?