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Squire · « **Reply #75 on:** February 25, 2004, 06:29:11 AM »

All of the cannon rounds that have hit me have been overmodelled.

I want to be clear on that.

ergRTC · « **Reply #76 on:** February 25, 2004, 08:09:29 AM »

urchin in his 202 is overmodeled.

Sakai · « **Reply #77 on:** February 25, 2004, 02:29:20 PM »

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Originally posted by ergRTC
urchin in his 202 is overmodeled.

Dude. Waaaaaaaay.

Sakai

Wmaker · « **Reply #78 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:33:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Squire
"Come on Brady - give us the CV with Martlets and Sea Hurri's"

Maybe it would help if we got a Finnish squadron to request this.

Again Squire, what did you mean by this??

Folks,

One thing that came to mind when talking about Hispano Mk.II and Mauser rounds is that Hispano shell is fairly sharp tipped which gives it better aerodynamical properties compared to Minegeschoss' flat tip. AFAIK the down side of the sharp tip was that the round didn't always fuze when it hit the target while the more flat tip enabled almost 100% that the round was going to explode. I doubt this has fuzing probability is modelled in AH.

Batz · « **Reply #79 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:48:44 AM »

Wmaker,

He may believe Brady gives undue support in regards to request for running FinRus in the CT. Despite the fact that the Fins have done a lot for the CT. He feels just because he types "gimme plane x y z" that he deserve the same attention as the "Fins".

He fails to grasp the fact that Kanttori and others have done a lot of work, not just for the CT, but for numerous AH scenarios in producing maps and skins etc.

From his quote above and by other statements he has made one could assume he feels Brady "is a tool of the Finish players".

ergRTC · « **Reply #80 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:53:50 AM »

can i pay brady for all pac all the time?

If its map making that gets you setup time I can make a pretty nice map. Just ships no land.

I dont like that logic batz. Favorites always stink.

this is biased of course, cuase I hate the russian front stuff. Very pretty map, but ewww, soviet planes are boring.

Batz · « **Reply #81 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:06:18 AM »

Favorites?

player 1 asks "lets run plane x y z"

player 2 asks "lets run plane x y z" by the way heres a new map, skins etc.....

CM runs player 2's set up, favorites? You bet, you get more out of player 2 then 1. It has nothing to do with the theater itself.

So player 1 whines and cries instead of going back building the terrain etc that would help sell his setup.

Even with artik's Israel/Egypt setup he deserved a chance to run it for the effort he put in.

Kanttori not only made Finrus but did Okinawa as well.

Pac guys have their own development group and once they start turning out a steady flow of setups I am sure they will be used often.

Sorry you hate ostfront 'cause Kanttori is "at it again".

Stay tuned...

Squire · « **Reply #82 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:25:41 AM »

"He may believe Brady gives undue support in regards to request for running FinRus in the CT"

Yes, I do, and thats not all.

...I remember when Stream asked to have the P-40E available at a CV for his squad night some months back. The P-40E was already available in the setup, as were the CVs. The reason? the 325th FG had a historic real life event based on rolling some P-40s off a CV in the med. So he asks, and the answer from the CT staff? no. Thats just typical, "player feedback" is a catchy phrase here.

But hey, ask to setup a map close to their hearts, no problemo.

As for having to create new maps and skins?, it was never a requirement to design a setup and submitt it with brand new maps and skins untill ex-CT pukes like you started using it as an excuse to ignore any setup your 109G-2 crowd didnt like.

Its just the CT, we aren't doing Scenarios here.

As for the "new crop" l am willing to to work with them, and have supported the CT and their setups by SHOWING UP, with my squad on a regular basis. Unlike some who just sit by the sidelines, remenis about past glory and shoot their mouths off.

Regards.

ergRTC · « **Reply #83 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:31:13 AM »

no no non non nonononononono

So if kantori makes 'moon base 7' we get that rather than a nice simple pac setup that many love and look forward to? or instead of a 1943 p47 vs 190 setup? or a good old BOB setup?
Or something as neat and interesting as next weeks p38 vs nik/ki61 setup?

no. map making should not determine what gets played. I like trying kantoris maps and I think they are near perfection, and often (not lately thank god) it seems like the ct gets stuck in a rut

russia early
bob
finland early
europe
finland early
finland late
pac
isreal???
finland early
bob
africa
finland
finland
finland
finland
finland

Finland was not all that 'important' or interesting to those of us not from finland. Flying 109s vs 109s is not really up there for most ct folks either, whether they are painted differently or not. If I wanted to match up the same planes in dogfights i would of course be flying in the MA.

Again, not *****ing about the map, the map kicks ass, just we see it a little too often. (imho)

Batz · « **Reply #84 on:** February 26, 2004, 11:15:40 AM »

Nice exaggerations there erg.

Squire

p40 from cvs? Ok, those bastard CMs.

I never said that the CT was a scenario. I said when given 2 choices; between a long time whiner and a setup created with effort by a group who contributes far more then just showing up that the choice is easy.

Pac folk are a dime a dozen in AH. Very rarely is there a place where a 109e can face a spit 1, or g2s face off with la5s. The main is full of hogs and f6fs. So what if PAC setups aren’t run on a regular basis in the CT. But unless you are going to exaggerate like erg you know that PAC setups are run, just not the way you like them. The CT is the only place where some planes are ever flown. It’s a good thing to be able to rely on that. The varieties of maps also attract folk into the CT. Especially the good ones like Finrus.

Squire · « **Reply #85 on:** February 26, 2004, 11:36:34 AM »

I never said that Finn-Russ was a bad setup, or that it shouldn't be run. We have shown up for squad night every time its been up, as both VVS and Finn/LW.

"So what if PAC setups aren’t run on a regular basis in the CT"

Well, at least you are honest about it, but, its not like we didnt notice that sentiment before, you know?

As for the MA, im note sure how that is relevent in regards to PAC setups. The MA is a wasteland no matter what you like to fly, PAC or ETO. Lots of F6Fs, really? so there aren't LA-7s, P-51Ds and 109G-10s with every other player?

ergRTC · « **Reply #86 on:** February 26, 2004, 12:26:18 PM »

I too disagree with the ma comment from batz (and if there are so many pac people out there, doesnt that mean we should have more pac time in the CT?), but I think we are all at cross purposes anyway.

It all comes down to a schedule. Then there would be no more griping about the setup. Pretty darn easy if you ask me. europe, pac are your only theatres in all reality. Since there are so many europe variations I would say a good split would be 2 europe: 1 pac. I at first thought 3:1 but that would mean 36 euro maps a year vs 12 pac. Course 2 pac maps in two months is about what we get now. Maybe a little less.

Wmaker · « **Reply #87 on:** February 26, 2004, 12:32:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Squire
"Come on Brady - give us the CV with Martlets and Sea Hurri's"

Maybe it would help if we got a Finnish squadron to request this.

Yep Batz, I was pretty sure that was it but I just wanted to make sure.

Squire,

First, AFAIK Fin-Rus has been asked for the CT once by a finnish squad. It has been asked a couple of times by the finnish Virtualpilots association in different kind of occations where there has been a change to promote virtual flying to a fairly large audience. Fin-Rus has been an instant hit in Finland among people not aware of virtual aviation for the obvious reasons. IMO there couldn't be a better marketing tool for HTC in Finland than Fin-Rus. And Brady most definately haven't been the only CM to run it on these requests.

So your remark was clueless, very childish and bitter.

All,

Because there obviously are 8-year olds among us who cry when they can't fly their plane of choise every week like they would when their little brother gets something they didn't...why don't we try to make everything as EVEN as possible so that setups are run for example in this sequence PTO/MTO/ETO?

It's just a suggestion. I don't know if it's ok for the CMs or not. Personally, I have favourite setups in all of those theaters and even as a finn can fly other planes than Bf109G-2 even though it seems hard to believe to some.

Squire · « **Reply #88 on:** February 26, 2004, 04:15:42 PM »

"First, AFAIK Fin-Rus has been asked for the CT once by a finnish squad. It has been asked a couple of times by the finnish Virtualpilots association in different kind of occations where there has been a change to promote virtual flying to a fairly large audience. Fin-Rus has been an instant hit in Finland among people not aware of virtual aviation for the obvious reasons. IMO there couldn't be a better marketing tool for HTC in Finland than Fin-Rus. And Brady most definately haven't been the only CM to run it on these"

Find any post where I said I had a problem with that, with any Finnish squad, or Finnish setup. Go ahead.

You seem hell bent on blowing it far out of all proportion, be my guest.

Slash27 · « **Reply #89 on:** February 26, 2004, 04:53:06 PM »

The dime-a-dozen PAC types get it Warloc. Wmaker, no is downing the Finns. Finn/Rus just gets ran a hell of alot.