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Offline Hortlund

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« Reply #165 on: February 25, 2004, 07:28:13 AM »
If you are arguing that submarines should not shoot at shipwrecked enemies, you should first take it up with your US allies regarding their trackrecord in the pacific...then you can try to claim some moral high ground here.

You may report back here when you have done that.

Thanks.

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« Reply #166 on: February 25, 2004, 07:40:18 AM »
I don't really know Scholzie. There were few survivors to tell the tale. Wreckage was usually found all holed through, and there are some reports of concentraited fire on the lifeboats.
Well, we were on the allied side, for one, shipping tremendous amounts of food to the British, and then secondly, U-boats being spotted could be reported.  That's all I can think off.
Just reading a book about the War years up here, tremendous stuff really. Seems to have been much more going on then I ever imagined.
That spy-part was also quite a thing. He may have had his fingers in luring the Scharnhorst out, it was a similar bait as supposed to get to the Tirpitz, but worked that time.
He was also assigned to making the Germans belive that the allied planned a seaborne invation from Iceland to Norway, by sending false reports of the Alled strength up here. Some belive that because of that, the Germans kept a bigger force in Norway than necessary. I don't really have any info about that, would be great if you had some.
BTW, there were quite a few Norse units here, including one squadron!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #167 on: February 25, 2004, 07:46:55 AM »
I'm not taking any moral high ground, but it seems you are heading that way. Enlighten me as to why the Laconia incident is relevant in ascertaining the reasons why U-Boats machine-gunned and shelled unarmed sailors and their lifeboats?

And kindly take your supercilious condescension and shove it up your arse. There's a good chap.
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« Reply #168 on: February 25, 2004, 08:06:06 AM »
Hot issues....
On the morning of the 10th of may, 1940, an unknown fleet was spotted headed for Reykjavik harbour. Our PM was woken up, and he asked: Which navy is this? It looks like the Brits he was told.
"Thank god" he said. "Had it been the Germans, I'd have been shot, had it been the Russians, I'd have been put in prison, now I can just sleep a bit more"!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #169 on: February 25, 2004, 08:34:30 AM »
A little twist of fate ;)
My wife's granfather is a German. He was drafted and assigned to a sub. He never got his boat though, so his wartime years were spent minesweeping.
My grandfather was however a Fisherman around Iceland, stopped that and started farming sometimes in 1940.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #170 on: February 25, 2004, 12:45:19 PM »
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Originally posted by Angus
had it been the Russians, I'd have been put in prison,  


Lies!!!!!