Author Topic: internal lazer sight? (Read 831 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2004, 08:51:48 AM »

tritium night sights are about as high tech as I get. I hate batteries... even bought an Omega watch so I wouldn't have to deal with em.

lazs

SaburoS · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2004, 01:45:15 AM »

Laser sights are a useless, wow-wee addition to a tactical firearm. I'm against laser sights for anything other than training purposes.
In a stressful situation that forces me to focus on the laser and not the target. Easy to get fixated on following the little dot around. Eyes have to continually refocus when the dot lands on a near, far, then near surface. Leading to a slower net time on proper sight aquisition.
Laser can get out of alignment.
Can run out of batteries.
Can break at the worst time.
Your laser dot shining on everything isn't a good thing.
In a dusty environment, that visible beam will act as a beacon right back to you (one can bet that in a tactical situation, one might be going against armed individuals).
Adds unneccesary weight.
The only place where a laser sight is shown in a tactical situation is in a Hollywood movie where we all know the true "experts" reside

Want to increase your quick sight aquisition and accuracy?
Practice, practice, and yet more practice.
I'm a big believer in tritium night sights. I won't own a defensive weapon without one.

LAWCobra · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2004, 01:48:48 AM »

AWW Crap I will just keep an old 1911 with fixed sights.
You can drop it kick it and it will never need the sights re adjusted.

Good old reliable weapon.

Steve · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2004, 02:08:33 AM »

I have the stock sights(adjustable) that come w/ the goldmatch.
Hogue grips(no idea if they are something special... feel ok).

Does Kimber offer tritium sights?

Steve · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2004, 02:20:37 AM »

Saburo!

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Want to increase your quick sight aquisition and accuracy?

My shooting is one thing I keep up on. I enjoy shooting targets and assorted fruits and veggies( grapefruit,coconuts, melons, etc) out in the desert. My friends and I go to the same spot often enough that when we are done shooting and cleaning up, the local critters all come in and clean up everything but the brass for us. Kind of funny to shoot off several hundred (edit: Well a couple hundred anyway) rounds then have a bunch of animals wander w/in a few feet of you to have a snack.

I can hit what I aim at w/ the Kimber... wow it's a nice gun. I have fired other 1911's that just aren't very accurate. Anyway, enough about me... let's talk about tritiuim sights!!!

Edit: Nuke wanted to shoot a rabbit w/ his SKS once but I just couldn't see the sport in baiting in a critter w/ all that food then bagging it w/ a semi auto-rifle. I scared the rabbit off by "trying" to kill it first. Nuke never said anything but I think he knows what I was doing. No, I'm not a PETA freak but I just can't see killing anything that isn't a pest or that I'm not going to eat.

lazs2 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2004, 08:53:32 AM »

yep steve... they come stock on most fixed sight kimbers and you can retrofit em to other Kimbers right from the dealer. They bought out the main tritium supplier.

lazs

Doberman · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2004, 12:29:05 PM »

HEY! A Kimber stroking thread!

The first handgun I owned was a Kimber Classic, bought when that was ALL they were making.

Still far and away my favorite among the 8 or so I own. It's still dead stock and outshoots my friends 1911 and Hi-Power, both with $1500+ of custom work done. When I've only got time to go and put 100 rounds or so downrange, the Kimber is always the gun I take. The Glock, Taurus, Hi-Power, etc. all stay in the safe.

As for the question of laser sights .... As has been said, the best thing to do is to practice enough that you don't need laser sights. That being said, if you can't practice enough (looking past the fact that maybe you shouldn't own a gun if you can't practice enough to become proficient with it), laser sights can be a useful addition. We'd all like to think that in a situation where we had to, our training would kick in and we'd be able to line up the sights and put rounds into the target. Who knows? Might be nice to have that crutch there if you really needed it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2004, 12:48:08 PM »

yep... Kimbers are fine guns. I have an eclipse custom II but...

It's accurate for a locked breech semi auto... but... my revolvers outshoot it at 25 yards and put it to shame at 50.

still... it's pretty darn reliable for a semi auto.. I trust it enough to keep it on the nightstand.

lazs

Doberman · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2004, 05:50:43 PM »

Well, it's no secret that (in general) a good revolver will outshoot a good pistol.

The downside is the ugliness inherent in revolvers.

Only good looking revolver I've ever seen is the Colt 1873. Gimme a Semi any day.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2004, 05:59:42 PM »

I think of a laser sight as another tool. Studies have shown that laser sights lead to higher first round hit prob and the use of one can make many think twice when they see that little dot float about their chest. You can also shoot percisely without exposing as much of your body in some circumstances. I chose a lasermax since it holds zero, is less that 1/2 inch off bore and adds no real weight or bulk. It's not the only aiming device, just one of them.

SaburoS · « **Reply #25 on:** March 02, 2004, 07:56:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Saburo!

~~~S~! Back at ya, Sir!~~

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 03, 2004, 09:02:20 AM »

yep dobe... the semi auto looks so much cooler when you hold it sideways...

besides... people know your serious when you have a semi auto... especialy a black one. who could be afraid of a little revolver in 44?

lazs

Doberman · « **Reply #27 on:** March 03, 2004, 10:42:44 AM »

I can't remember what it was, but I watched something the other day that was supposedly showing a realistic depiction of a Counter Terrorist team or some such. They breached a room with their handguns sideways "gangsta" style. Ugh. I think I turned it off then.