Author Topic: Oscars (Read 1829 times)

Frogm4n · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2004, 01:09:52 PM »

The people that go to sean penn movies these days are not going to give a rats bellybutton about his politics.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2004, 01:18:24 PM »

His WMD comment was just fine in tone, quick, measured and respectful - he seemed to understand the events was about thier love of movies and not politics. The same cant be said of that **** moore last year.

As for Penn I'm far more concerned about the Saddam propaganda trips he made last year...

Mystic River was an excellent, if depressing film.... I think he deserved the Oscar fully even though I wish Bill Murray won for Lost in Translation.

SOB · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2004, 01:22:57 PM »

What was so horrible about what Moore said? I forgot.

Eagler · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2004, 01:39:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
The people that go to sean penn movies these days are not going to give a rats bellybutton about his politics.

hehe .. true
I don't think they can spell "p-o-l-i-t-i-c-s"

LePaul · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2004, 01:48:58 PM »

I thought this was neat...from tht Reuter's story...

After the first commercial break, Crystal was joined on stage by his longtime comic colleague, Robin Williams, telling the audience, "This is the reason for our five-second delay."

The two then stood side by side, smiling, as Williams, in a joke about the recent flurry of same-sex weddings performed in San Francisco said, "Look at us -- a San Francisco wedding cake."

Thud · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2004, 06:01:27 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Mystic River was an excellent, if depressing film.... I think he deserved the Oscar fully even though I wish Bill Murray won for Lost in Translation.

So true, I can honestly say that Murray is great in that movie, without any reservations...

Truly something special!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2004, 06:43:50 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
What was so horrible about what Moore said? I forgot.

I dont think it was anything moore said, certainly he said it all before in public. However it was the way he behaved and grandstanded and made a fool of himself that was the real problem. I think its ok for people to make personal gestures upon reciving the awards but not to the point it becomes a disrespectful and distracting embarassement, and it seems that he did.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2004, 08:02:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Doberman
Hmmmmm? Popularity continuing to fall?

I'm no Sean Penn fan, but you're either fooling yourself or uninformed.

21 Grams. Apparently a great movie - but a flop at the box office. Why? Released shortly after his comments, $56,000 open letter to Bush, and 'fact finding mission' to Iraq.

I did not see Mystic River because I dispise Robbins even more than Penn, so I cant comment on it.

Penn was fired from a movie deal because of his remarks, and if memory serves, he is still engaged in litigation.

Did you miss all the public outcry as a result of his antics?

Anyone remember the Dixie Chicks? How about Johhny Depp? Remember that 'Mexico' movie? What did that rake in? Hell - its already on video.

People in the public eye must relate to a broad audience - they need to remain opinionless. They love everyone and have no problems with anything.

As soon as one of these public individuals - an actor in this case - opens his mouth and voices a contraversial opinion, he/she divides the fan base.

On one hand, those who agree with the speaker like him even more - but they would have bought tickets anyway.

On the other, those who disagree with him wont be so keen to pay $10 a ticket to fund his lifestyle.

Not a very smart business move, if you ask me - and after all - a business is what Hollywood is.

VFJACKAL · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2004, 08:47:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
- and after all - a business is what Hollywood is.

Dang and I thought it was the Liberal White House area....

RightF00T · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2004, 09:08:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Sean Penn needs to be sent to a re-education camp.

I dont care how many awards they give him - his box office proceeds will continue to shink as long as he keeps throwing the letters "WMD" into every speech he makes infront of a microphone.

Idjit.

Amen, that guy has some serious issues, you could see the forced smiles of the audience and it seemed like the whole room went silent into complete akwardness.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2004, 09:30:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
How about Johhny Depp? Remember that 'Mexico' movie? What did that rake in? Hell - its already on video.

"Once Upon a Time in Mexico" earned back twice its budget in domestic release alone. And perhaps you're forgetting "Pirates of the Carribean" which raked in over $300 million in domestic ticket sales and earned Depp a nomination for best actor. Even the crappy "From Hell" made back its budget, and other big movies starring Depp such as "Sleepy Hollow" more than paid for themselves.

Depp is not a good example to prove the point you're making.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2004, 09:48:24 PM »

Well then remove him and insert anyone else you'd like in order to prove my point.

PS: AFAIR PotC was released before his comments in the German rag.

Sandman · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2004, 09:52:45 PM »

Dixie Chicks aren't a good example either. They had a huge year.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2004, 09:55:53 PM »

Who is to say it wouldnt have been bigger if they kept their mouth shut? You forget the backlash? The 'CD stomping parties?'

EDIT: For the record - I used to really enjoy Penn's performances, but his comments towards Bush went beyond what I feel would have been acceptable. He went beyond voicing his opinion and behaved like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

Now I wont pay to see his movies because I dont agree with his political views. I feel no need to seperate the personal from the professional - especially when given the opportunity to judge a man based on the reality of his character as opposed to the make-believe characters he portrays for a living.

One less ticket bought for his movies - so yes, his sales have fallen from what they could have been.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 01, 2004, 10:00:24 PM »

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Penn has never really been the type of "A"-list star who's gonna headline a blockbuster like a Tom Cruise is. But his movies have pretty consistantly made money and he's got the critics respect as someone who makes thought-provoking, powerful, intelligent movies instead of jumping into whatver action-adventure moneymaking schlock is offered to him.

Because we all know that PENN wrote the scripts, PENN directed the movies, PENN made the settings, PENN supervised...