Lawsuits against Gun Mfgs

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I think I just saw the most retarded statement evar.

MSNBC (the cable TV channel, not the web site) had a question of the day regarding "Should gun mfgs be sued for violent crime?"

I only caught three of the responses because I was outdoors grilling some burgers. First one was a fine reply, stating things about gun safety and education. The third one was a good reply as well, stating that it isn't the weapon - its society thats at fault.

The second one though, damn... This person stated, "Gun mfgs should be sued for producing an unsafe product. Food mfgs can be sued for producing unsafe food, and automobile mfgs can be sued for unsafe automobiles."

Now, I know there will be people who have problems understanding just how rediculously stupid that statement is - so I'll break it down.

A weapon is, first of all, designed to be unsafe - but not to the owner/purchaser of the weapon, but to those who force the owner to use it. In the case of a responsible owner anyway. The only way its unsafe to the owner and innocent people is blatant misuse and poor gun safety training on that person's behalf.

Food - if you use it as its not intended, it will harm the one who purchased it and potentially other people who its fed to. Blatant misuse (ie: undercooking, or choking to death because your a retard that can't chew) of food, well - there simply is no lawsuit against the food manufacturer. If the food comes packed with poison or spikey metal balls, THEN there is a case for suing the manufacturer.

Autombiles - SUVs are well reknowned for flipping in extreme manuevers at extreme speeds. Blatantly using it out of its envelope will be an instant loss in a court case. If it has some defect that causes it to explode, then you've got a case.

In all three cases, being a responsible, safe and educated gun owner/cook/automobile driver - there is no way for the product to be unsafe unless there is a defect or it is misprepared.

So the fact of the matter is - unless the gun explodes when you fire a round, then its not unsafe. The only thing unsafe in violent crimes is the owner/operator of the weapon, so they are the responsible party and the only one that can be sued.
-SW

[weaselsan]

Very simple....never eat or drive your firearms....they want a warning label????

[lasersailor184]

Warning, firearms can be painful when ingested.  This applies to ammunition also.

[john9001]

car mfg's should have to pay for all speeding tickets, after all , they made a car that will vilolate the speed limits.


let me explane lawsuits;

if you fall down your neighbors steps, you sue your neighbor.

if your neighbor falls down your steps , they sue you.

if you fall down your own steps, you sue your builder.

[BEVO]

Originally posted by john9001
car mfg's should have to pay for all speeding tickets, after all , they made a car that will vilolate the speed limits.


let me explane lawsuits;

if you fall down your neighbors steps, you sue your neighbor.

if your neighbor falls down your steps , they sue you.

if you fall down your own steps, you sue your builder.

it should be:
if you fall down your neighbor's steps, your neighbor laughs at your dumb prettythang.

if your neighbor falls down your stairs, you laugh at his dumb prettythang.

and if you fall down your own stairs, you look around to make sure nobody saw you..... then laugh at your own dumb prettythang

if everyone wasn't so sue happy, this country would be a much better place.

[2Slow]

What a load of crap.  Hell, Ford got away with the flamable Pinto.  They even had internal documents showing they would rather suffer the law suits than pay the cost to fix them with a recall.

Granted, firearms may enable some persons to commit homicide.  Heck, I would not want to engage in hand to hand combat.  I suck at it.  Been well trained in it, but I just am not good at it.  So your average citizen may be inclined to "Shoot" someone as opposed to enaging in close combat.

But the intent still lies with the person commiting homicide, not the tool used.

Drive by shootings:  Sue the auto manufacturer too!  No vehicle, no drive by

[Stoned Gecko]

What's sad are the courts that allow these kinds of lawsuits to happen. That's right there with all the numbnuts suing the saw manufacturer because they cut off their finger. I don't see the logic in that ... the saw did exactly what it was supposed to do

[Pei]

Originally posted by Stoned Gecko
What's sad are the courts that allow these kinds of lawsuits to happen. That's right there with all the numbnuts suing the saw manufacturer because they cut off their finger. I don't see the logic in that ... the saw did exactly what it was supposed to do

It's partly because judges and a large number of legislators are Lawyers. Just as Doctors usually recommend more medicine and treatment and management always recommends more management , lawyers are going to ensure every problem is solved through the law.
If you are professional hammer-wielder you make sure all problems are solved with a hammer.

[VFJACKAL]

This is when I think they would have a case....

6:00 News....

Anchor..We take you now to Reporter Sue Mebuttoff for a late breaking story just in....Sue?

Reporter....This is Sue Mebuttoff reporting from the scene...

 A 9mm Glok committed murder today in South Central L.A.. The glok , authorities said ,  fired on citizens as they passed by it's house where the door was left open.

 Lead Investagator Wesson "It just had a bad morning and decided to fire on them" "We have no idea what happened earlier but we're questioning the Gloks owner Mr. Smiith as to what may have caused this shooting"

 A spokesperson from the GLOK company declined comment.

 THis is the first shooting of this type in history. We spoke to a Gun Physcoligist and she had these comments.

  "It's a classic case of misuse by the owner. The GLOK in this case , not being used by the owner enough had had enough. GLOKs need love , oil , and the occasional firing to be happy. It's just simple case of neglect. I blame the Owner and charges should be filed on him as well."

  Authourities are also catching wind of several Shotguns and 3 high powered rifles that maybe looking to cause harm as well.

They seem to think this maybe the beginnings of a new and ruthless gang of GUNS that will be calling themselves "The Misused"

Spokesperson for the Police department said that until that have more information that this is all they can say at this time.

This has been a tregedy of epic proportions and a landmark case of Guns gone carzy. The GLOK was taken to the central station where it will be formally charged. If convicted the GLOK could face being dismatled and melted. This is the most severe penalty for a gun.

 Gun activist are already arriving to be at the GLOKs side and try to rally support for the quote" Misused Firearms of of America Scoiety". Supporters of the GLOK say that People should'nt judge til they have heard all the facts of the case. Famed Lawyer Johnny Remmington it is rumored may be lead council for the accused GLOK.

This has been Sue Mebuttoff live at the scene,,,Back to you Lee Tagator.........

[Stoned Gecko]

[Eagler]

the gun store and the gun maker have already been sued at least once here in FL after a murder

yes, it is retarded but typical in our "it's not my fault" world we live in today..

[Frogm4n]

they just passed a bill not allowing lawsuits against gun mfgs for silly reasons. It was tacted onto the assult weopon ban.

[lazs2]

nooooo froggie... the assault weapons ban was tacked on to the mfgs bill.   Most bills in the U.S are like a beetle poll... they have about 4 or more parts that have nothing to do with each other... the women and liberals and democrats will point to this bill and say that it means that everyone is agaisnst assualt weapons even tho there is no defenition of assualt weapons.

lazs

[lasersailor184]

No, the bill wasn't passed because of the "Riders" on it that were banning different types of guns.

[Frogm4n]

Oh yea your right laz, it didnt get passed.
Silly thing about the the assult weopon ban is that i can still walk down to a gun show fill out no paper work, not have a background check,and  buy a tek-9 and go columbine on people.
So why not just allow all gun sales go with no regulation.
So many loopholes and powerfull guns you can get anyways.